Canada to phase out door to door delivered post[Merged]

gerrybbadd

Canada have started to phase out delivery of post door to door. Instead, post will be delivered to a Community post box, for people to collect their own post at a time to suit themselves.

Is this forward thinking, or a recipe for disaster? I think the potential for vandalism is high, as well as rubbish accumulation, with all the spam mail that will no doubt be discarded.

http://http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/canada-phases-out-post-delivery-to-the-door-616900.html

Dravokivich

Didn't see the court order in the mail, sure I'd no time to go to the post office.

TeddyTedson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSZiNVwrs2I

BraziliaNZ

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Canada have started to phase out delivery of post door to door. Instead, post will be delivered to a Community post box, for people to collect their own post at a time to suit themselves.

Is this forward thinking, or a recipe for disaster? I think the potential for vandalism is high, as well as rubbish accumulation, with all the spam mail that will no doubt be discarded.

http://http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/canada-phases-out-post-delivery-to-the-door-616900.html

The country is so huge and spread out it's probably a good idea for Canada. In many parts of Canada when your dog runs away you can still see him the next day.

neilthefunkeone

We had this when living in Whistler, BC a few years ago. At the front of the estate was a sheltered locker area. You applied for a key through the local post office.. Was good as the locker was large enough for the post man to put packages and small boxes in..

Stovepipe

This is common all over the US. Apartment complexes could have several hundred apartments and duplexes, so they have central lockers outside the buildings, usually near the parking area for each building.They were never vandalised but did suffer the blight og excessive junk mail.
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Stovepipe

SpaceTime

Sure they do that in apartment buildings here in Ireland too. We just don't have very many of them.

I do think though that you should be required to have a mailbox on your pillar / gate.

It would also help if people were required to put a house number on that mailbox. So, at least there'd be fewer mix ups and new postal workers wouldn't be completely at a loss as to where "SnootyVille House", Rathgar, Dublin 6X is.

It's ridiculous expecting the postman to walk all the way up to the hall door past vicious dogs and all that stuff and then to have to bend down to the mailbox you've carefully positioned in the most awkward location possible (bottom of the door).

If An Post simply required you to have a mailbox on the boundary of your property (as is the norm in a lot of other countries), the postman's route wouldn't take as long and he/she would have a much less arduous job!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

they sell milk in bags in canada
what works there has no guarantee of working anywhere else

they're a weird, beautiful people

DrumSteve

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

they sell milk in bags in canada
what works there has no guarantee of working anywhere else

they're a weird, beautiful people

I miss those bags of milk.

They were delicious.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

DrumSteve wrote: »

I miss those bags of milk.

They were delicious.

i dont know if it was the novelty, the weed or actual superior milk.. but yeah it was delicious

SpaceTime

I remember buying milk bags in northern Spain too and they were the most ridiculously impractical yokes I've ever used!

Tetrapak is FAR superior and it also protects the milk from light damage (impacts on the taste)

kneemos

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i dont know if it was the novelty, the weed or actual superior milk.. but yeah it was delicious

And nutritious I hope.

DrumSteve

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i dont know if it was the novelty, the weed or actual superior milk.. but yeah it was delicious

For me it was all three.

SpaceTime wrote: »

I remember buying milk bags in northern Spain too and they were the most ridiculously impractical yokes I've ever used!

Tetrapak is FAR superior and it also protects the milk from light damage (impacts on the taste)

You.. just... don't... get it.

Kintarō Hattori

Bags in Poland too. Fun but impractical:

http://www.sp35.tychy.edu.pl/galeria12/zywienie/lek3a.jpg

Thoie

neilthefunkeone wrote: »

We had this when living in Whistler, BC a few years ago. At the front of the estate was a sheltered locker area. You applied for a key through the local post office.. Was good as the locker was large enough for the post man to put packages and small boxes in..

Was it a locker just for you, or for everyone within a certain distance? When you opened the locker, did you sort through all your neighbours' mail to find your own?

SpaceTime

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Bags in Poland too. Fun but impractical:

http://www.sp35.tychy.edu.pl/galeria12/zywienie/lek3a.jpg

Looks more like it's just some dairy that's too cheap to use proper packs!

OU812

It would be better all round if we mandatorily went digital for all official communications (with an opt out for those without Internet connectivity).

All bills, court details, all government communications, anything official.

Onus is on the user to prove they didn't access something because digital time stamps would prove otherwise. Could also open the door for online voting etc.

Also, I kinda wanna try some of that bagmilk now. Thinking it may feel sorta boobish to hold...

SpaceTime

The judge should just put a message on your Facebook like anyone else does if you're up for a court appearance

Accept Friend Request from "The Dublin Circuit Court" ??

kneemos

DrumSteve wrote: »

For me it was all three.



You.. just... don't... get it.

He wasn't there maan

DrumSteve

kneemos wrote: »

He wasn't there maan

Seriously, those bags of milk are second behind Poutine in Canadian delicassies I like.

Poutine is sooooo ****in good.

kneemos

SpaceTime wrote: »

Looks more like it's just some dairy that's too cheap to use proper packs!

What do you do with it when it's opened?

DrumSteve

kneemos wrote: »

What do you do with it when it's opened?

It goes inside a plastic reusable jug.

And then on me lucky charms.

gerrybbadd

DrumSteve wrote: »

Seriously, those bags of milk are second behind Poutine in Canadian delicassies I like.

Poutine is sooooo ****in good.

Poutine looks so unappetising though. Really off

DrumSteve

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Poutine looks so unappetising though. Really off

It's very.... moreish.

neilthefunkeone

Thoie wrote: »

Was it a locker just for you, or for everyone within a certain distance? When you opened the locker, did you sort through all your neighbours' mail to find your own?

No each house had their own locker.. about the size of a parcel motel locker..

Dyr

My postmans an utter c**t and this would just give him more scope for utter c***tishness

seriously he once walked up to my door and without knocking once shoved in the dreaded delivery note stating "you were'nt here when we called so please trek out our depot that in the arse end of an industrial estate in the arse end of nowhere to collect your package". I was actually waiting for the bollix and opened the door on him as he was doing it. lazy c**t just didnt want to carry the package from his van.

goose2005

SpaceTime wrote: »

Sure they do that in apartment buildings here in Ireland too. We just don't have very many of them.

I do think though that you should be required to have a mailbox on your pillar / gate.

It would also help if people were required to put a house number on that mailbox. So, at least there'd be fewer mix ups and new postal workers wouldn't be completely at a loss as to where "SnootyVille House", Rathgar, Dublin 6X is.

It's ridiculous expecting the postman to walk all the way up to the hall door past vicious dogs and all that stuff and then to have to bend down to the mailbox you've carefully positioned in the most awkward location possible (bottom of the door).

If An Post simply required you to have a mailbox on the boundary of your property (as is the norm in a lot of other countries), the postman's route wouldn't take as long and he/she would have a much less arduous job!

In France people have their names on the boxes too, there's no need to turn the postman's job into a series of bizarre riddles. Really, if you can't be bothered to put up a postbox at your gate they should just throw the letters in the ditch

SpaceTime

goose2005 wrote: »

In France people have their names on the boxes too, there's no need to turn the postman's job into a series of bizarre riddles. Really, if you can't be bothered to put up a postbox at your gate they should just throw the letters in the ditch

Just as long as it doesn't get to the levels of craziness in Belgium where the police check that you have got your name on the doorbell and that you actually live there once you've registered at the town hall.

Failure to declare oneself can result in being fined.

I'd be happy enough if people just put their house number up!

SPDUB

SpaceTime wrote: »

Sure they do that in apartment buildings here in Ireland too. We just don't have very many of them.

I do think though that you should be required to have a mailbox on your pillar / gate.

It would also help if people were required to put a house number on that mailbox. So, at least there'd be fewer mix ups and new postal workers wouldn't be completely at a loss as to where "SnootyVille House", Rathgar, Dublin 6X is.

It's ridiculous expecting the postman to walk all the way up to the hall door past vicious dogs and all that stuff and then to have to bend down to the mailbox you've carefully positioned in the most awkward location possible (bottom of the door).

If An Post simply required you to have a mailbox on the boundary of your property (as is the norm in a lot of other countries), the postman's route wouldn't take as long and he/she would have a much less arduous job!

An Post actually do want Mailboxes but Comreg , the Postal regulator won't allow it .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25340301
Canada Post will phase out home delivery in urban areas over the next five years as the postal service struggles to rein in persistent losses.
Under a five-year plan released on Wednesday, the cost of stamps will also rise and as many as 8,000 jobs will be eliminated.
But the agency says it will also open more retail locations across Canada.
The service faces a projected 1bn Canadian dollar ($943m; £576m) loss by 2020 without "fundamental changes".
Canada Post lost C$73m in the third quarter of the current fiscal year, CBC News reported.

How would you feel if An Post stopped home deliveries and you had to go to the post office to pick up your mail.

Could be a real pain for many people, of an excuse to avoid receiving bills!

Ruu

US Postal service to follow! I pay 90% of my bill things online.

SpaceTime

SPDUB wrote: »

An Post actually do want Mailboxes but Comreg , the Postal regulator won't allow it .

They should just pursue it under Health and Safety regulations. It's nuts expecting postmen/women to walk into properties where there may be dogs and also expecting people to bend down to put mail into low-down mailboxes is totally unfair.

I don't understand why their unions aren't up in arms about it. It's the kind of thing that unions should be going after rather than some of the more frivolous stuff which seems to be all about protecting upper / middle management salaries.

bnt

Considering that my main bills are now all electronic, and the only "snail mail" I get these days is either (a) advertising or (b) Revenue letters, the answer is: "not a problem".

Thoie

SpaceTime wrote: »

They should just pursue it under Health and Safety regulations. It's nuts expecting postmen/women to walk into properties where there may be dogs and also expecting people to bend down to put mail into low-down mailboxes is totally unfair.

I don't understand why their unions aren't up in arms about it. It's the kind of thing that unions should be going after rather than some of the more frivolous stuff which seems to be all about protecting upper / middle management salaries.

Ignoring packages (which are a whooolllle other story), I suspect post office workers have fewer letters than ever to deliver, so if they didn't complain back in the 80s (which is when health and safety consciousness really started), why would they complain now?

who the fug

Bambi wrote: »

My postmans an utter c**t and this would just give him more scope for utter c***tishness

seriously he once walked up to my door and without knocking once shoved in the dreaded delivery note stating "you were'nt here when we called so please trek out our depot that in the arse end of an industrial estate in the arse end of nowhere to collect your package". I was actually waiting for the bollix and opened the door on him as he was doing it. lazy c**t just didnt want to carry the package from his van.

Try being nice to him/her , may improve delivery

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

who the fug wrote: »

Try being nice to him/her , may improve delivery

you shouldn't have to be nice to people to get them to do what they're paid to do

who the fug

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

you shouldn't have to be nice to people to get them to do what they're paid to do

yes but if you are nice, they will make the extra effort, also it is called manners

SPDUB

SpaceTime wrote: »

They should just pursue it under Health and Safety regulations. It's nuts expecting postmen/women to walk into properties where there may be dogs and also expecting people to bend down to put mail into low-down mailboxes is totally unfair.

I don't understand why their unions aren't up in arms about it. It's the kind of thing that unions should be going after rather than some of the more frivolous stuff which seems to be all about protecting upper / middle management salaries.

It's a bit of a double edged sword for the Union since if boxes are installed the company will say it cuts down on delivery time to each dwelling so each individual postman can be given more houses and therefore less employees would be needed per delivery office

As for low level issue they are against building regulations since 2000 and if anyone installs one now An Post can deem tham as having no delivery point and not deliver to them .

They have to deliver to pre 2000 ones though but they are taken into account when planning routes

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

who the fug wrote: »

yes but if you are nice, they will make the extra effort, also it is called manners

delivering the post is not 'extra effort' for a postman

Sh1tbag OToole

Soon everything will be delivered by drones. Might as well shut down an post now and be done with it.

Enda will then be able to collect his brownie points for being first in Europe to shutdown the national postal service

Rabelais

The Brits realised the importance of developing a postal service. I'd love to see an economic study on its influence on how we came to be what we are. Extremely important at a social and market level. Becoming obsolete though. We communicate online; we become comfortable with services that once involved filling out forms; we actively shop online for services that rely on getting rid of a paper delivery change.

A method of delivering physical products to the home in an efficient way is still ripe for opportunity. It won't be a system based on a Victorian methodology though.

Dyr

who the fug wrote: »

Try being nice to him/her , may improve delivery

I never had any dealings with the prick until he started taking liberties with my property and hes notorious for it

be nice to him? he's lucky he has'nt had the lungs kicked outta him

NuckingFacker

What's all this aboout?