Grangegorman Luas / cycle / pedestrian route still blocked by filling station

monument

You have to ask how relocating a filling station in the city was seen as easier and less costly than CPOing the site... Or at least without the risk of this happening...

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/grangegorman-development-stalls-over-petrol-station-1.1622519

They are going to route the cycle / pedestrian access around it but it looks like the RPA may have to turn to CPOing the site.

TheBandicoot

God, I really hope they don't end half assing this and fitting the future developments around the filling station, it will look awful and create a very poor space.

cgcsb

Heaven's sake just CPO the land, you can hardly redesign the luas and public plaza around it.

L1011

I would be seriously worried about the length of time a filling station site is meant to lay idle before being constructed over if it does go to CPO and the delays that can entail.

The article there makes it sound like its a Maxol corporate owned site rather than a franchiser owned one, in which case I have zero sympathy for them.

AlekSmart

MYOB wrote: »

I would be seriously worried about the length of time a filling station site is meant to lay idle before being constructed over if it does go to CPO and the delays that can entail.

The article there makes it sound like its a Maxol corporate owned site rather than a franchiser owned one, in which case I have zero sympathy for them.

I say well done Maxol and Tom Noonan,it's more than high-time the Dublin Civic Administrative collective was given a good hard kick up the arxe...for far too long,these chancers have muddled and fiddled their way around the City,until it's central core today resembles a 24 hour set for Night of the Living Dead.

And MYOB,you would be absolutely correct to be seriously worried about this.

This issue appears to revolve as much around incompetence or an over inflated sense of importance as anything else.

However,when it is placed alongside the cack-handed hit'n miss manner in which the RPA and it's co-conspirators have begun the BXD construction phase,it is nothing,if not,totally predictable.

The RPA's decision to assume all insurance liability for BXD's construction work may yet turn out to be VERY short sighted indeed,as if the Initial Stephens Green stuff is any guide,the exposure to claims of all sorts will be substantial indeed.

I sense an Irish solution to an Irish problem in the offing....a half baked compromise....:D

Muahahaha

Ah man that's my fav petrol station in the north city, it's got some of the cheapest petrol going and the staff are sound.
Still though if it is for the common good then it should be CPOd. It'll mean the first petrol station on the N2 coming from the city is out past Glasnevin cemetery:(

L1011

That already is the first station on the N2 - the road was detrunked inside the M50.

There are a few petrol station sites within the city that could be reactivated (as the one on Amiens Street and the one on Northumberland Road were) if the shortage of stations within the city becomes too acute. They could also remove the planning constraint on having buildings *above* the pumps to allow the ground floor filling stations that other cities have.

Carawaystick

MYOB wrote: »

They could also remove the planning constraint on having buildings *above* the pumps to allow the ground floor filling stations that other cities have.

Just get builders to self certify the safety regs have been met and sher what could go wrong

Does the tramline go through the fuel station or is it access for the DIT?
A planner with Fingal coco told me at an information day that they could not CPO land for a school, she also had no idea how it came to pass that houses were built on land designated for a primary school
She may have been incompetent or lying about both those things though.

Banjoxed

AlekSmart wrote: »

I say well done Maxol and Tom Noonan,it's more than high-time the Dublin Civic Administrative collective was given a good hard kick up the arxe...for far too long,these chancers have muddled and fiddled their way around the City,until it's central core today resembles a 24 hour set for Night of the Living Dead.

And MYOB,you would be absolutely correct to be seriously worried about this.

This issue appears to revolve as much around incompetence or an over inflated sense of importance as anything else.

However,when it is placed alongside the cack-handed hit'n miss manner in which the RPA and it's co-conspirators have begun the BXD construction phase,it is nothing,if not,totally predictable.

The RPA's decision to assume all insurance liability for BXD's construction work may yet turn out to be VERY short sighted indeed,as if the Initial Stephens Green stuff is any guide,the exposure to claims of all sorts will be substantial indeed.

I sense an Irish solution to an Irish problem in the offing....a half baked compromise....:D

Well here's mine: I'm not buying from Maxol.

Devilman40k

Banjoxed wrote: »

Well here's mine: I'm not buying from Maxol.

But this is not a result of Maxol doing anything wrong. they said they'd move if they were provided with a suitable location to relocate, DCC said yes but haven't provided an alternative to the original proposal. All this and they still want to proceed without the alternative already in place.

If anything DCC are at fault and need to be taken outside and kicked until a solution is provided be that CPO or otherwise. I don't see how Maxol are in any way responsible.