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Cow Eat Bag of Meal

  • 10-12-2013 9:31am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 196 ✭✭


    I had 2 cows eat one bag and maybe half another one last night by braking in to where the meal was strored, any ideas what action to take.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭milkprofit


    Stan 10 wrote: »
    I had 2 cows eat one bag and maybe half another one last night by braking in to where the meal was strored, any ideas what action to take.

    Vet urgentely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    is milk of magnesia still available, or is it called milk par now days,

    if so give them a bottle each and monitor them

    bread soda might be of benefit also

    just keep an eye on them give hay or straw and water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭PMU


    liquid parrafin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Milton09


    Stan 10 wrote: »
    I had 2 cows eat one bag and maybe half another one last night by braking in to where the meal was strored, any ideas what action to take.

    I was once told not to give water in these situations, its expands the meal insde and can kill them - not sure how true this is...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    as above.. liquid paraffin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Would keep them away from water, or at least restrict it greatly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭buffalobilly


    No water for sure


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    no water and dont stand behind them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Severe talking to maybe.

    Sorry, I know that is no help...

    Bread soda and vet is your best course. If they were already on meal might not cause acidosis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Were they getting any meal at present. They would have shared about 38-40kgs between them so about 20kgs each, I would talk to vet but would not panic put them in a place where they have access to Silage, straw or hay. would give access to limited water, 10L at the time each they just need for it to pass through system.

    Your biggest worry is one has polished off all of it however unlikly. Watch to see if either gets extremely bloated. Would trow 2-300 grams of cubicle lime on floor they will lick it up, Have seen agey fresian bulls eat over 20kgs a day on adlib biggest issue was they were not finishing.

    I imagine all they will have is a pain in the gut like a child that had unfettered access to a sweet shop for a few hours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 FYM


    Definately no / little water, they may start to spit out their cud as a result of acidisis, will be a case for the vet at this stage, just keep an eye on them and no meal for a few days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭vinne


    It happened to a bull of mine ,wasn't going to do anything until a neighbour told me he lost two cows over the same thing . The vet came and gave the bull a sachet mixed with 5 gallons of water pumped into the stomach , hope that helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭PMU


    had it happen to a cow this spring,vet reckons too much protein can damage something in the stomach (cant remember what), so the liquid paraffin is important. she came back fine and a week later broke in again! got a kick in the a*** this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    FYM wrote: »
    Definately no / little water, they may start to spit out their cud as a result of acidisis, will be a case for the vet at this stage, just keep an eye on them and no meal for a few days


    why


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    jomoloney wrote: »
    is milk of magnesia still available, or is it called milk par now days,

    if so give them a bottle each and monitor them

    bread soda might be of benefit also

    just keep an eye on them give hay or straw and water

    Milk of Magnesia is now back on the shelves. It disappeared earlier from the shops this year:( Why I don't know, maybe us farmers used up all the stock :rolleyes:
    I always keep a few large bottles of it in the house.
    As you said bread soda is also good, a good fistful in a half litre of warm water down the hatch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Any update stan?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 196 ✭✭Stan 10


    Thanks a million for all the help, really appreciate it. The cows seem to be doing ok I was a bit slow about replying incase they did not maintain it but so far so good. I started with soda and then gave liquid parafin. They were on a nice bit of meal anyway so that might have helped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Good to hear Stan. If they on a good bit of meal anyway you should be grand.

    One thing. How are they dung wise and are they taking in much silage.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 196 ✭✭Stan 10


    TUBBY wrote: »
    Good to hear Stan. If they on a good bit of meal anyway you should be grand.

    One thing. How are they dung wise and are they taking in much silage.

    Normal in the dung gave very little bit of hay to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Stan 10 wrote: »
    Normal in the dung gave very little bit of hay to them.

    that sound good. Say you have nothing to worry about so. Digestive system upset would mean no intake and most likely no dung or else severe piping.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    hapened here a few years back cows broke in to meel shed i said 2 our fathers and 1 hail mary done the trick.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 196 ✭✭Stan 10


    Just a quick update cows seem to be doing well this morning and back to normal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    Stan 10 wrote: »
    Just a quick update cows seem to be doing well this morning and back to normal.

    Thats the style


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Stan 10 wrote: »
    Just a quick update cows seem to be doing well this morning and back to normal.

    An with a slight gain in weight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Damo810


    Why restrict the water? Is it so it won't cake the meal inside? Or to prevent them bloating or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    You'll have to keep her on 25kg a day now that she's used to it :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    Damo810 wrote: »
    Why restrict the water? Is it so it won't cake the meal inside? Or to prevent them bloating or what?

    Allowing them to drink can trigger acidosis.


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