Seemingly healthy and normal people getting free rides on Bus Eireann...

Encrustment

I've seen loads of people get on buses with some sort of ID card and the driver just lets them on for free. I thought these bus passes were for the disabled??? The people who use them seem fine. Most of them are skangers. I guess it's some sort of skang scam? Any idea?

Mr.Crinklewood

Tax saver ticket?

Mince Pie

Carers?

April O Neill II

Encrustment wrote: »

I've seen loads of people get on buses with some sort of ID card and the driver just lets them on for free. I thought these bus passes were for the disabled??? The people who use them seem fine. Most of them are skangers. I guess it's some sort of skang scam? Any idea?

I had a long-term illness a few years ago, and had a free travel pass for a while. Outwardly you would never have known I was ill. Does this mean I wasn't?

Chips Lovell

One thing's for sure, this is definitely your business OP.

DrumSteve

Sounds like you should give everyone boarding a health check.

No visible ailments... turf them off!

kneemos

Probably got them with their free flats and prams.

howamidifferent

plainclothes narcs?

Lucyfur

Not all disabled people look disabled

MJ23

April O Neill II wrote: »

I had a long-term illness a few years ago, and had a free travel pass for a while. Outwardly you would never have known I was ill. Does this mean I wasn't?

Why should you be able to get free bus journeys for that though?

Outkast_IRE

They are members of the Freemasons its one of the special perks

miss no stars

Because all illnesses and disabilities are outwardly obvious. Yeah. That's how it works.

MJ23

"Entoytled"

April O Neill II

MJ23 wrote: »

Why should you be able to get free bus journeys for that though?

Well, one reason, being seriously ill means lots and lots of hospital appointments meaning lots and lots of travel costs. Whilst not working. Someone who is able to work through their illness probably wouldn't get one. Believe me, I'd have rather been working at the time, but I couldn't whilst the long, drawn out treatment was ongoing.

And I should point out I was sent it, I didn't apply for it. Would you not use it if you were sent one? So I'd get onto to social welfare to enquire if you're not happy about people getting them. And this was a few years back too, don't think they give out as many now.

frag420

I thought people were gettin laid for free on dublin bus!!

Thread title dissapoints big time!!

DrumSteve

MJ23 wrote: »

Why should you be able to get free bus journeys for that though?

Because we, as a society, try to help out people who are not well by removing the financial stress of having to pay for journeys.

One of the nicer things about this country.

RenegadeRabbi

Op how dare you are you a child?

Jester252

People who are mentally disabled OP. This was how I found out a friend of mind was mentally disabled.

saltyjack silverblade

Isn't it meant to be a crazy figure like 1 in 3 on any bus are not paying? Students aren't allowed on for free but Sharon from the flats is. Not fair. And there is a higher income disparity.

April O Neill II

saltyjack silverblade wrote: »

Students aren't allowed on for free but Sharon from the flats is. Not fair. And there is a higher income disparity.

Between students and one fictitious caricature?

Sir Humphrey Appleby

absolutely nobody should be getting free travel.
Discounted rates, ok, subject to a means test, but not free.

Conbhar

Carers get a travel pass if I'm not mistaken.

B.A._Baracus

Encrustment wrote: »

I've seen loads of people get on buses with some sort of ID card and the driver just lets them on for free. I thought these bus passes were for the disabled??? The people who use them seem fine. Most of them are skangers. I guess it's some sort of skang scam? Any idea?

Obviously genuine people use these passes but yes, there are some who scam the system as well. It is these scum who can make you look at a genuine person and question ...

I heard junkies get these passes. Even a reformed one. But the vast 'excuses' is just to feign a disability.

I heard back in the day the ol' trick was to claim your back was at you. I reckon in todays world most scamsters feign a mental disability than a physical one. Eg, suffering from extreme panic attacks etc.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

One thing's for sure, this is definitely your business OP.

I'm sorry but it quite literally is everyone's business. We are all tax payers and it is tax payers money that is subsidising these peoples travel.



I often (once a week) buy the 'day saver ticket' as I have to go on between 4 and 6 bus journeys around the city those days, so to the average Joe traveller it looks like I'm waving a 'free bus journey pass' to the driver when in fact I paid my fare at my initial bus departure.

I strongly resent paying Bus Eireann for my small 4 year old little girl who obviously doesn't have any source of income while some people who get at least 188 per week and probably a bit more than that get to travel the exact same journey for absolutely nothing!!!

Nobody should be allowed travel for free, if you're entitled to 'free travel' your ticket should be subsidised, everyone should pay something, be it half the normal fare or 30% or whatever and just to say I'm not being hypocritical, I fully accept I should pay for my little girls bus fare if she uses a seat, the thing that annoys me is that she (me) has to pay 1.20 and she's only 4, yet fully grown adults pay nothing.

Bus Eireann have increased their fares yet again in the last couple of weeks. They're a ****ing joke of a company.

:mad:

Geomy

April O Neill II wrote: »

Well, one reason, being seriously ill means lots and lots of hospital appointments meaning lots and lots of travel costs. Whilst not working. Someone who is able to work through their illness probably wouldn't get one. Believe me, I'd have rather been working at the time, but I couldn't whilst the long, drawn out treatment was ongoing.

And I should point out I was sent it, I didn't apply for it. Would you not use it if you were sent one? So I'd get onto to social welfare to enquire if you're not happy about people getting them. And this was a few years back too, don't think they give out as many now.

Year's ago I had a back injury and was awaiting back surgery.

I was going from Shannon into Limerick for physio twice a week, I couldn't get the physio I needed in Shannon. ..
So I was doing 2 return journeys weekly, then my orthopaedic surgeon was in the South Terrace medical centre in Cork...
Mr Maha Langham was my Surgeon, I wasn't going to be butchered by one of those archaic surgeon's. ..
He was going to do keyhole surgery on my discs...
I was also getting epidurals every 6 months

Once every second month I was going down there for a check up...

I used to wear a pair of 7 jeans, gant leather jacket Iron Maiden t-shirt and caterpillar boots lol

I wasn't dressed like a skanger lol but entitled to Disability Allowance free travel pass and every thing else...

Why. ..because I'm worth it ;-)

Didn't dress like a skanger

zef

Peoples disabilities or health issues are their own business and no one else's.
Carers, retired people and people claiming disability allowance receive a bus pass.
Awful bang of begrudgery in this thread.

Bog Standard User

they suffer from minute penis disorder... you'd never know to look at them... but inability to have sex is a disability

muckwarrior

I've noticed from travelling on Dublin Bus that there seems to be a high density of these "carers" around Amiens Street.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Bog Standard User wrote: »

they suffer from minute penis disorder... you'd never know to look at them... but inability to have sex is a disability

Projecting much?

RichardoKhan

The Waffen SS were also quite adept at spotting who was healthy & who wasnt!

Encrustment

RenegadeRabbi wrote: »

Op how dare you are you a child?

LoL

April O Neill II

Geomy wrote: »

Year's ago I had a back injury and was awaiting back surgery.

I was going from Shannon into Limerick for physio twice a week, I couldn't get the physio I needed in Shannon. ..
So I was doing 2 return journeys weekly, then my orthopaedic surgeon was in the South Terrace medical centre in Cork...
Mr Maha Langham was my Surgeon, I wasn't going to be butchered by one of those archaic surgeon's. ..
He was going to do keyhole surgery on my discs...
I was also getting epidurals every 6 months

Once every second month I was going down there for a check up...

I used to wear a pair of 7 jeans, gant leather jacket Iron Maiden t-shirt and caterpillar boots lol

I wasn't dressed like a skanger lol but entitled to Disability Allowance free travel pass and every thing else...

Why. ..because I'm worth it ;-)

Didn't dress like a skanger

Exactly, so many people in this country have to travel quite far for specialist treatment. Just imagine being a cancer patient in Donegal, for example.

April O Neill II

Look, I've stuck up for the pass, but yeah, I absolutely accept that some people scammed getting their pass. Such is life, unfortunately.

Alls I'm sayin' is just because someone looks outwardly healthy, doesn't mean they are. If someone had queried me on mine, I was would have shown them the lovely abdominal post-op staples I was sporting at the time. That'd shut them up.

gcgirl

My cousin is missing his limbs below both knees from birth, he has a bus pass too,from an outward appearance he doesn't look like his uses prosthetics !

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

April O Neill II wrote: »

Look, I've stuck up for the pass, but yeah, I absolutely accept that some people scammed getting their pass. Such is life, unfortunately.

Alls I'm sayin' is just because someone looks outwardly healthy, doesn't mean they are. If someone had queried me on mine, I was would have shown them the lovely abdominal post-op staples I was sporting at the time. That'd shut them up.

Sorry if this is off topic...

Sexy abdominal post-op staples?

April O Neill II

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Sexy abdominal post-op staples?

Yeah, bet there's porn related to them out there somewhere. Damn, think I missed a revenue stream I could have exploited whilst ill.

suicide_circus

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

One thing's for sure, this is definitely your business OP.

Actually, as someone paying for the service, it is his business. Without mugs like the OP paying for tickets and then paying taxes used to pay for other peoples free tickets, there would be no service. The culture of handing out free travel passes combined with public service style pensions and wages (without the customer base to back these up) has CIE on it's last legs. Its not his business to know individuals' circumstances but it is his business to question the ludicrous and unsustainable practice of free travel passes for those who dont need it as an absolute necessity such as April O'Niell for getting to appointments.

Super-Rush

We're not doing this thread for the rest of the year.