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White line.

  • 04-12-2013 10:11pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭


    You can cross a solid white line for purposes of access.
    Can you do the same for purposes of egress ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    I'm not a lawyer or read on the Road Traffic Acts, but I'd imagine 'access' covers both entry and exit. That would be my common sense approach. Would be different of course if it was a hatched area etc. I'm talking about a dead straight single line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    You can cross a solid white line for purposes of access.
    Can you do the same for purposes of egress ?

    Your question seems to imply that 'access' is the opposite of 'egress' which it is not.

    'Ingress' is the opposite of 'egress'. 'Access' covers both of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    A white line is routinely crossed. Just try drive a lorry and not cross it. I'd say your fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Sheldons Brain


    Because things are done routinely, does not mean that they are legal.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    coylemj wrote: »
    Your question seems to imply that 'access' is the opposite of 'egress' which it is not.'Ingress' is the opposite of 'egress'. 'Access' covers both of them.

    The OP is trying to sound intelligent


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Egress are white birds a bit like Herons. So, no, you must not drive over them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    corktina wrote: »
    Egress are white birds a bit like Herons. So, no, you must not drive over them



    You can drive over them for access (to steal their eggs).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    that would be eggess I'm thinking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    Well..if we are being clever....wikiclever :P

    it can also mean an astronomical term...so the question becomes...

    You can cross a solid white line for purposes of access.
    Can you do the same for purposes of the reappearance of a celestial body after its eclipse.

    Now thats a whole other kettle of fish! So no crossing the white line just cos you can see the moon again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Mycroft H wrote: »
    A white line is routinely crossed. Just try drive a lorry and not cross it. I'd say your fine.

    Big vehicles are legally allowed to drive outside continuous white line if they can't fit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Is there any law allowing crossing continuous white line for access?

    And what what is included in "access" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    It's in the Road Traffic General Bye Laws 1964


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Mycroft H wrote: »
    It's in the Road Traffic General Bye Laws 1964
    Continuous white lines
    9. An authorised continuous white line along the centre of a roadway shall indicate that traffic must drive to the left of the line, and when on a stretch of roadway on which such a line has been provided a driver shall, save for the purpose of entering or leaving land or premises adjoining the right hand side of that roadway, drive to the left of the line.

    So I understand that you can cross the line if you are entering land or premises only.

    So if there is a side road towards the right, and continuous white line, then you can't turn right there. Am I right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭Noccy_Mondy


    CiniO wrote: »
    Big vehicles are legally allowed to drive outside continuous white line if they can't fit.

    Whats even worse is on the white line. All you can feel is *bump bump*
    *bump bump*. Stupid cats eyes :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Whats even worse is on the white line. All you can feel is *bump bump*
    *bump bump*. Stupid cats eyes :pac:

    Exactly. Travelling on some roads in Ireland in a truck or bus reminds me of old trains. Just regular interval bump, bump, bump - exactly as you say.

    I still can't understand how could the rural roads in Ireland be that narrow, allowing for single lane to be sometimes less than 2m in width, and at the same time allowing trucks and buses (with 2.5m width) on such roads.

    F.e. in Poland minimum width of traffic lane is 2.75m. Narrower lane can't legally exist. Depending on class of road required width might be bigger. F.e. on motorways it's at least 3.5m per lane.
    For that reason when I was doing bus driving test in Poland, they paid attention that I don't cut through the white lines, especially on bends or junctions. Cutting through the white line would be a fail.
    In Ireland driving a bus or truck without cutting through white lines is impossible. On driving test, tester completely doesn't pay attention to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    CiniO wrote: »
    Exactly. Travelling on some roads in Ireland in a truck or bus reminds me of old trains. Just regular interval bump, bump, bump - exactly as you say.

    I still can't understand how could the rural roads in Ireland be that narrow, allowing for single lane to be sometimes less than 2m in width, and at the same time allowing trucks and buses (with 2.5m width) on such roads.

    F.e. in Poland minimum width of traffic lane is 2.75m. Narrower lane can't legally exist. Depending on class of road required width might be bigger. F.e. on motorways it's at least 3.5m per lane.
    For that reason when I was doing bus driving test in Poland, they paid attention that I don't cut through the white lines, especially on bends or junctions. Cutting through the white line would be a fail.
    In Ireland driving a bus or truck without cutting through white lines is impossible. On driving test, tester completely doesn't pay attention to it.

    And in some place's he's looking for you to take the lane; narrow side streets and bridges etc to discourage traffic from blocking you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭toyotaavensis


    OP there are two times you can legally cross a continuous white line.
    1 for access
    2 in an emergency


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    OP there are two times you can legally cross a continuous white line.
    1 for access
    2 in an emergency

    3 - if driving vehicle which is too big to fit within the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    Thanks for the replies. The 1964 bye-laws make the point clear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    tin79 wrote: »
    You can drive over them for access (to steal their eggs).

    Then you would leave the egress eggless


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    bmwguy wrote: »
    Then you would leave the egress eggless

    and shell-shocked...


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