bull not working

wool521

I let out bull with heifers and one was bulling but he didn't show any interest in her,I just got him yesterday,would it take him a day or two to settle into new place or should I change him?Thanks

Rho b

What age and breed is he.
Unless he is a mature lad then I would expect that it would take him a few days to settle in and exert his dominance over the heifers.

moy83

wool521 wrote: »

I let out bull with heifers and one was bulling but he didn't show any interest in her,I just got him yesterday,would it take him a day or two to settle into new place or should I change him?Thanks

I dont have a bull , but I would have thought regardless he would do some sniffing at her if she was bulling .
Was she long bulling at that stage ?
Maybe the change of surroundings had him off form , give him a few days I would say

wool521

he a young Hereford bull,she was bulling at seven in the morn and I let him out about 11,he had been in shed where he was and heifers are out on grass during the day,he was grazing away showed no interest in her

Rho b

Herefords are normally early maturing and would be showing interest at a year old.
You could put him into different area with her by themselves. Also be careful that he does not get bullied by the heifers as this could knock his confidence.

on the river

give him time . He dosent really know his new surrounding. Although maybe let him out on a few cows in heat and see what he does. hopfully SOMETHING . If not bring him back to the seller and ask for your money back or repalcement.

onyerbikepat

If she was bulling in the morning maybe she was gone 'off the boil' by the time you let him out.

Bizzum

We'd a Charolais bull one time and I remember remarking that I never saw him bulling a cow, but they all went in calf none the less.
A young bull needs time, it's probably less than ideal letting him out to a bulling heifer. Could ya arrange to have him running with a few that he's there with them when they're coming round?

onyerbikepat

Bizzum wrote: »

We'd a Charolais bull one time and I remember remarking that I never saw him bulling a cow, but they all went in calf none the less.?

Catholic ?

Rho b

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Catholic ?

Sold one of those Catholic bulls years ago.
After a few months the owner's wife got on the phone screaming blue murder that the bull wasn't working and threatening all sorts of legal action - loss of earnings etc. She was a vet and she knew what she was talking about
I asked her had she scanned any of the cows/heifers. She said no and that she did not need to do so as the bull was not working and she was going to contact her solicitor.
I gently reminded her about the legislation about the sale of stock bulls. After all they had this bull for 4 or 5 months at this stage and that she should pregnancy test the cows.
I phoned her about a month later to see how things were going and she told me that the cows/heifers were in calf. She never even bothered to apologise for her nasty behavour on the phone to me.
To be honest I could not resist the temptation to lay the boot in and tell her that sometimes university degrees cannot compete with real experience.

Bizzum

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Catholic ?

I never noticed him bless himself!

Maybe he just liked it with the lights off:)

J.O. Farmer

Anotherote="Rho b;87806168"]
I could not resist the temptation to lay the boot in and tell her that sometimes university degrees cannot compete with real experience.[/quote]
While what you say is very true I think common sense is what's lacking there. Unless you spend all your time staring at the bull how do you know he's not served the cows when your not looking.
If you do spend 24 hours a day watching to see the bull serving cows then maybe you have bigger problems than him not working but then again whatever floats your boat.
Another thing that raises is she's not much of a vet.

irish bloke

wool521 wrote: »

I let out bull with heifers and one was bulling but he didn't show any interest in her,I just got him yesterday,would it take him a day or two to settle into new place or should I change him?Thanks

Could you not play a bit of romantic music in the barn for them or maybe lay out a candle lit trough of grass for them.
Sounds to me though that the aul bull could be left hand drive....

Rho b

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Anotherote="Rho b;87806168"]
I could not resist the temptation to lay the boot in and tell her that sometimes university degrees cannot compete with real experience.

While what you say is very true I think common sense is what's lacking there. Unless you spend all your time staring at the bull how do you know he's not served the cows when your not looking.
If you do spend 24 hours a day watching to see the bull serving cows then maybe you have bigger problems than him not working but then again whatever floats your boat.
Another thing that raises is she's not much of a vet.[/QUOTE]

In fairness J.O. if I had payed 1,800 IR£ at the time for the said bull then I would as sure as hell have been keeping a good eye on him. I can understand that this lady was probably in full time employment and away from home but her husband was a full time suckler farmer.
We invested pretty hefty sums in young stock bulls over the years (mostly imports) and either myself or the OH always kept a good eye on them and their behavour both at rest and when cows/heifers were on.
As a suckler/pedigree farmer at that time we could tell when an animal was off - because we knew the individual animals within our herd.
BTW we ran a mixed/pedigree herd of 80 sucklers at the time.

bob charles

try him on a nice young fit limmy :rolleyes:

J.O. Farmer

Rho b wrote: »

While what you say is very true I think common sense is what's lacking there. Unless you spend all your time staring at the bull how do you know he's not served the cows when your not looking.
If you do spend 24 hours a day watching to see the bull serving cows then maybe you have bigger problems than him not working but then again whatever floats your boat.
Another thing that raises is she's not much of a vet.

In fairness J.O. if I had payed 1,800 IR£ at the time for the said bull then I would as sure as hell have been keeping a good eye on him. I can understand that this lady was probably in full time employment and away from home but her husband was a full time suckler farmer.
We invested pretty hefty sums in young stock bulls over the years (mostly imports) and either myself or the OH always kept a good eye on them and their behavour both at rest and when cows/heifers were on.
As a suckler/pedigree farmer at that time we could tell when an animal was off - because we knew the individual animals within our herd.
BTW we ran a mixed/pedigree herd of 80 sucklers at the time.[/quote]
In fairness you would expect to see some sign that something happened but to ring somebody up threatening to sue over a bull not working without having any proof of failure other than your own failure to see anything is out of line.
Also the bull could send the year all over the back of a cow and fire blanks. Proof of pregnancy status is required.