PanBuster

BalingMad

Well laaadz

Anyone have a panbuster? Do they bring on land much? Also how much does a new one cost, like the one in the pic (Mastek soil mate shear bolt model)

Cheers

Muckit

BalingMad wrote: »

Well laaadz

Anyone have a panbuster?

Just had an Indian so l'l report back in the morning

Sharpshooter82

Muckit wrote: »

Just had an Indian so l'l report back in the morning

ya animal

BalingMad

yere two funny men darcys

Sharpshooter82

BalingMad wrote: »

Well laaadz

Anyone have a panbuster? Do they bring on land much? Also how much does a new one cost, like the one in the pic (Mastek soil mate shear bolt model)

Cheers

used one this year. its mainly used to help drainage. not enough rsin so far this year to see if it made much of a difference

BalingMad

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

used one this year. its mainly used to help drainage. not enough rsin so far this year to see if it made much of a difference

A1, sound. u might remember the ring roller convo i had with you. Of the idea of keeping drum roller and try have tool to eradicate compaction

Muckit

You should really notice the difference next spring

Sharpshooter82

BalingMad wrote: »

A1, sound. u might remember the ring roller convo i had with you. Of the idea of keeping drum roller and try have tool to eradicate compaction

only thing is that it fairly rips up the ground

Sharpshooter82

Muckit wrote: »

You should really notice the difference next spring

yeah but the field was fairly flooded this time last year

BalingMad

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

only thing is that it fairly rips up the ground

as in stone uplift or in general doing alot of surface damage

Sharpshooter82

BalingMad wrote: »

as in stone uplift or in general doing alot of surface damage

both, you might want to run a roller over it afterwards as we didnt and you can still see the ridges in the land

BalingMad

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

both, you might want to run a roller over it afterwards as we didnt and you can still see the ridges in the land

even with a model which has a sod roller, would rolling be needed after?

Sharpshooter82

BalingMad wrote: »

even with a model which has a sod roller, would rolling be needed after?

we used one with the rollers like a cambridge roller behind it and it doesnt leave the land flat

BalingMad

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

we used one with the rollers like a cambridge roller behind it and it doesnt leave the land flat

Sound stuff. As u kind of got at this stage, going putting money into keeping/getting good grass. ie drainage and grass growth. any suggestions to look into

BalingMad

Sharpshooter82

BalingMad wrote: »

Sound stuff. As u kind of got at this stage, going putting money into keeping/getting good grass. ie drainage and grass growth. any suggestions to look into

grass harrow great for regrowth of grass and removing of dead grass

reilig

Mole ploughed a lot of land this year. It would have many benefits similar to subsoiling. Some of the land has been compacted for several years. Grass growth poor. Drainage poor.

We mole ploughed at 4ft intervals. The difference is amazing. Ground that would have been soft enough even during the summer still has cattle on it. It has dried out, grass has grown at nearly twice the normal rate - especially on the ground that was severely compacted. We do have some issues with the surface rising of the sod as we passed - but it looks like it will have gone back into place by the time we get to mowing next year.

BalingMad

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

grass harrow great for regrowth of grass and removing of dead grass

yes they seem to a inexpensive bit of kit. when ive a field with a dirty but i tend to turn the mower right down into the ground when topping, but there has been the occasion that bales had to be made as a result of all the sh1te left over

Sharpshooter82

BalingMad wrote: »

yes they seem to a inexpensive bit of kit. when ive a field with a dirty but i tend to turn the mower right down into the ground when topping, but there has been the occasion that bales had to be made as a result of all the sh1te left over

Chain harrows are good for getting rid of the moss but we have a big folding harrow thats good for the grass. A bit expensive at about 3K tho

BalingMad

reilig wrote: »

Mole ploughed a lot of land this year. It would have many benefits similar to subsoiling. Some of the land has been compacted for several years. Grass growth poor. Drainage poor.

We mole ploughed at 4ft intervals. The difference is amazing. Ground that would have been soft enough even during the summer still has cattle on it. It has dried out, grass has grown at nearly twice the normal rate - especially on the ground that was severely compacted. We do have some issues with the surface rising of the sod as we passed - but it looks like it will have gone back into place by the time we get to mowing next year.

good stuff, took delivery of one only a month back after the ploughing match special. Looking forward to shinning the shins on it.

Sharpshooter82

gonna try out an aerator next year to see does it improve the grass in anyway

BalingMad

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

gonna try out an aerator next year to see does it improve the grass in anyway

Bit skeptical of those, wouldnt do much for eradicating compaction

Sharpshooter82

BalingMad wrote: »

Bit skeptical of those, wouldnt do much for eradicating compaction

Be interesting to see if it's improves growth through allowing nutrients down to the roots

BalingMad

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

Be interesting to see if it's improves growth through allowing nutrients down to the roots

Ya youd imagine it would be good for slurry etc

knockmulliner

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

Be interesting to see if it's improves growth through allowing nutrients down to the roots

i have been using a spike aerator for five years on a farm that was tilled for 20 years, marley type soil and have seen great improvement in grass production. All the land was subsoil ed before it was let out but still needs spiking to reduce surface compaction particularly after a wet year and surprisingly also this year but not as bad . It certainly reduces ponding slurry runoff. Some fields are in grass 5 years and I will need to pan bust this year as the sward is still too good to reseed.

Muckit

Ok l mightnt have bust it, but I did shatter it

jimmy G M

We have a single leg mole plough and do a few acres every year. Reckon its a great job to deal with compaction, & improve utilisation of nutrients. Slow job though. See pictures below of field we did with the mole plough in Sept 2012 after that wonderful summer we had last year!

This year we decided to get in a contractor with one of those 3 legged panbusters and are happy with result. Cost €70hr and he would do aprox 2.5 acres/ hour so €700 for 25 acres.

This past year summer was a great year to do it as the ground was so dry.