animals killed for tv entertainment

gw80

On a similar tone as the tallagh horse incident, I was watching bear grylles recently where he cut the head off a snake and drank its blood and ate it,and not just bear grylles but iv seen similar actions on other tv programs.

Now i have no problem with people who are in real survival life or death situations resorting to such measures but does an animal really have to die for entertainment values,

It also seems to be the less cute and furry animals that tv has no problem showing gruesume deaths of,

I mean, bear grylles doesent really have to kill these animals its more for shock value than anything else, he,s not really in a life and death situation,would,nt just telling us that they can be eaten suffice,no, instead the unlucky snake, lizard, or frog that already struggled bad odds to survive to adulthood in the wild has to die surrounded by camera crew and presenter who are far from starving.

it just bothers me.

oppenheimer1

The same could be said of any animal that ends up on a dinner plate.

UCDVet

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

The same could be said of any animal that ends up on a dinner plate.

I enjoy eating meat - but this is 100% spot on. We have the knowledge and technology to not eat meat anymore. I wouldn't like it, but let's be honest about it.

B.A._Baracus

hypocrisy of life:

"It's wrong when people kill defenseless animals! :mad: ... But oh waiter, i'll have the sirloin steak please"

keithclancy

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

hypocrisy of life:

"It's wrong when people kill defenseless animals! :mad: ... But oh waiter, i'll have the sirloin steak please"

Dude ... those cows at least get to fight in the cow gladiator ring before they go out to the great steakhouse in the sky.

The winner gets the tits milked off them.

smcgiff

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

hypocrisy of life:

"It's wrong when people kill defenseless animals! :mad: ... But oh waiter, i'll have the sirloin steak please"

I think you need to look up the definition of hypocrisy. Human's are omnivores and are designed to eat meat. That doesn't mean you cannot be animal friendly and not like seeing them hurt for entertainment.

B.A._Baracus

smcgiff wrote: »

I think you need to look up the definition of hypocrisy. Human's are omnivores and are designed to eat meat. That doesn't mean you cannot be animal friendly and not like seeing them hurt for entertainment.

So lets breed pigs, chickens and cows. Then kill em and eat em. But at the same time if some poor little snake gets killed on tv ... that's wrong?

Wrong because we dont eat snake meat.

smcgiff

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

So lets breed pigs, chickens and cows. Then kill em and eat em. But at the same time if some poor little snake gets killed on tv ... that's wrong?

Wrong because we dont eat snake meat.

Nothing wrong with eating snake for food, plenty of people do. Also, how many pigs, chickens or cows would survive in the wild if not farmed?

April O Neill II

UCDVet wrote: »

I enjoy eating meat - but this is 100% spot on. We have the knowledge and technology to not eat meat anymore.

Not really, if you're talking about meat grown in labs. Very, very expensive and generally considered to be not anywhere near the same.

B.A._Baracus

smcgiff wrote: »

Nothing wrong with eating snake for food, plenty of people do. Also, how many pigs, chickens or cows would survive in the wild if not farmed?

wait hold on ....
Your excuse for breeding and killing so many animals is "well, ahem, how many would naturally survive?" ffs..

Personally your other comment of humans being omnivores was grand. But now your coming out with this crap?

gw80

I understand people have issues with killing any animals for food, Im a meat eater myself and i worked in an cattle abattoir for a few years and i have to say the way animals are killed for the home market compared to the ritualistic killings done for coshur meat witch both were done where i worked is much better for the animal,ie,its over in seconds,

but what bear grylles does is completly unnecessary

Sam Kade

gw80 wrote: »

but what bear grylles does is completly unnecessary

Even more so when he only pretends to eat it, he must leave room for the big juicy steak back at the hotel he has booked for the night;)

gw80

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

So lets breed pigs, chickens and cows. Then kill em and eat em. But at the same time if some poor little snake gets killed on tv ... that's wrong?

Wrong because we dont eat snake meat.

I no problem with people who eat snakes if its part of there diet, your missing my point,
the fact that it is done for entertainment value or shock value is what bothers me.

as iv stated i eat meat and im well aware animals get killed for my preferance, but i would have issue if said animals were killed in an entertainment fashion

smcgiff

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Personally your other comment of humans being omnivores was grand.

Thanks, I feel validated now.

What part of what I said is crap? Humans farm food to suit a biological need. None of the animals you mentioned would thrive or even survive without humans.

But, from your comments there's no distintion from using animals for food or entertainment. I see a clear distinction and zero hypocrisy.

Lenin Skynard

Grylles likes his snake washed down with a nice big glass of piss.

Femme_Fatale

Even more annoying than humans complaining about animals tortured to death for the craic despite eating meat... is the geniuses who always have to point that out as if they're being really original and insightful, and as if torturing an animal to death for the craic is the exact same thing.

Method and purpose and intent obviously make a difference.

/expresses mock anger with ":rolleyes:" and ":mad:"

dirtyden

smcgiff wrote: »

Thanks, I feel validated now.

What part of what I said is crap? Humans farm food to suit a biological need. None of the animals you mentioned would thrive or even survive without humans.

But, from your comments there's no distintion from using animals for food or entertainment. I see a clear distinction and zero hypocrisy.

What would happen all the cows if they were left to fend for themselves in Ireland? Would the rabbits get them?

smcgiff

dirtyden wrote: »

What would happen all the cows if they were left to fend for themselves in Ireland? Would the rabbits get them?

Starve come Winter.

WoollyRedHat

Only fools and horses.

dirtyden

smcgiff wrote: »

Starve come Winter.

How do all our other ruminants survive? Its a wonder we have any wildlife. They obviously would have to adapt but its not the arctic (and if they are unsuited to life here then you eating an irish steak is cruel)

Its hard to see where the line in the sand is drawn between Bear grylls killing and eating a snake and any of us horsing down fries or steaks. If he caused the snake any excessive trauma, maybe, but otherwise I cant see how a meat eater would be seriously outraged by it. By this logic master chef is outrageous as they are cooking and eating meat for entertainment, or is it just because it was a snake, if he killed a cow would it be ok?

BillyMitchel

April O Neill II wrote: »

Not really, if you're talking about meat grown in labs. Very, very expensive and generally considered to be not anywhere near the same.

Who wants to eat meant grown in a lab? That's worse than having sex with a blow up doll.

Just to confirm I've never done either. The doll was burst

smcgiff

:P

dirtyden wrote: »

They obviously would have to adapt but its not the artic

I think I've entertained your moronic less than realistic scenario enough. You might not eat them but you might want to do some research into the care required for a large animal like a cow, and its suitability for being wild.

Sam Kade

dirtyden wrote: »

What would happen all the cows if they were left to fend for themselves in Ireland? Would the rabbits get them?

They would die of old age and spread tb like the plague. Farmers control diseases in animals nowadays

UCDVet

April O Neill II wrote: »

Not really, if you're talking about meat grown in labs. Very, very expensive and generally considered to be not anywhere near the same.

No, I don't mean meat grown in labs.

I mean we can meet our dietary needs without killing animals. Lots of people do it. We don't need super-fancy lab grown meat to do it, we just need to eat things that aren't meat and ensure we get the nutrients we need.

Food is very abundant for us. Nobody in a first world country would starve if they couldn't eat the local deer they hunt.