A chain that can't be cut by boltcutters?

Toyotafanboi

Thought i'd better ask in here as i often see motorbikes chained up through the front wheel when they are parked...

i need around 2 meters of chain and a lock that are pretty much attack proof from a bolt cutters. could anyone recommend a brand or what to look for/ where to buy etc?

someone said before about wrapping a normal chain in plastic piping but i don't really see how this works?

goodlad

Deffo an Almax chain dude.

http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/All-Products/c-1-73/

nerrad1983

As said above mate the almax is the only chain i would go for tbh

I got this from them a while back

http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/product.asp?strPageHistory=category&numSearchStartRecord=0&strParents=73&CAT_ID=73&P_ID=129&btnProduct=More+Details

Think it was €260 including delivery, great company to deal with aswell

Cuddlesworth

Almax. The better bike thieves know them.

guttenberg

Make sure you keep the chain suspended mid air rather than lying on the ground, if they can't use the ground as leverage with the bolt cutters they will do even less damage.

Wonda-Boy

Yep, almax all the way. Deffo not cheap but you get what you pay for.

CrazyRabbit

Yup...Almax. I have a Series IV and it will actually break bolt cutters. Beast of a chain.

It's heavy...and expensive. But you ain't getting through it without spending a few mins with an angle grinder.

mikemac1

Another vote for Almax

My series IV defeated some thieving scum already as I had to park my bike outside a terraced house.

I also bought another chain which my dad uses to lock gates to his farmyard

Expensive but worth it. Nice crowd to deal with too

Skill Magill

nsfw - contains images of a fat man exerting himself

Markcheese

Gonna ask a stupid question ? What's to stop a thief breaking/unbolting what the bikes chained to ? Or just unbolting the front wheel and manhandling bike up a ramp ??

but43r

Markcheese wrote: »

Gonna ask a stupid question ? What's to stop a thief breaking/unbolting what the bikes chained to ? Or just unbolting the front wheel and manhandling bike up a ramp ??

There is pretty much nothing you can do that will stop them if they really want the bike (Including if it's parked in a garage). But thieves are looking for easy targets so if they see a bike with a very strong chain they will most likely move on to the next target that's less secured and takes less time to steal.

bladespin

A good chain will just focus them on the lock, they top ones use bottle jacks not bolt cutters.

Toyotafanboi

in my circumstance i have devised a ground anchor inside a garage and welded an eyelet onto the chassis of the car and wish to chain the car to the floor as it goes through extended periods of non usage in an unattended area. i know its not a perfect solution, it just nice to have a physical defence encase someone handy with electronics can bypass the alarm.

rowanh

Im in the process of buying my first bike, im going to get a ninja 250r. It doesnt look like there is much room to store a lock in the back, certainly not for one of these heavy chains. Is a disk lock the best option and are there any of those that are very hard to remove? Im guessing thieves would be able to move it into a van with a disk lock on easily though anyway?

Wossack

I'd consider a xena alarmed one - but yep, if its not secured to anything, it can be lifted handily enough

if you park the bike in the same spot all the time, you could consider just leaving a chain there, instead of always carrying it

Cienciano

I got 3 almax chains, 5 meters in total. Could barely lift the bag it came in! But they're top quality, and I remember at the time that some brand name chains were more expensive but lower quality.

rowanh wrote: »

Im in the process of buying my first bike, im going to get a ninja 250r. It doesnt look like there is much room to store a lock in the back, certainly not for one of these heavy chains. Is a disk lock the best option and are there any of those that are very hard to remove? Im guessing thieves would be able to move it into a van with a disk lock on easily though anyway?

If you park in the same place every day, you could leave the chain there.

corkgsxr

Get some crane chain. It cant be cut with bolt cutters and will only cost ya 30 euro.

Stainless steel slide lock. 90 euro.

120 in total and wont be cut.

Muahahaha

+1 on the Almax though I would say that they are very heavy chains so I wouldn't like to be carrying one in a backpack about everyday. I use mine at home and then a disc lock when out and about in town.

KTRIC

A heavy bike and fully comp is yer only man :pac:

RosieJoe

KTRIC wrote: »

A heavy bike and fully comp is yer only man :pac:

Especially when the bike breaks down every few miles

KTRIC

RosieJoe wrote: »

Especially when the bike breaks down every few miles

Forgot to add that the bike also has to be an undesirable hunk of metal.

Mech1

I'm gonna start stealing those chains, at those prices I could make a few bob!

Wossack

Mech1 wrote: »

I'm gonna start stealing those chains, at those prices I could make a few bob!

aye, just use an angle grinder to cut through the bikes frame, or wheels etc to free up the precious chains for redistribution

Big-Mac

corkgsxr wrote: »

Get some crane chain. It cant be cut with bolt cutters and will only cost ya 30 euro.

Stainless steel slide lock. 90 euro.

120 in total and wont be cut.

Where would you get this? I already have an Almax wouldn't Mind another, I priced grade 80 16mm chain at 40euro per Meter.

KTRIC

Is there anyone here that could source a fair few meters of crane chain for a group buy ??

Skill Magill

^^^^
How would we cut it though?

Del2005

Skill Magill wrote: »

^^^^
How would we cut it though?

Just get the local scumbag, they'll get through it easily.

Zascar

KTRIC wrote: »

A heavy bike and fully comp is yer only man :pac:

In fairness yes. Get fully comp and no claims discount protection, I got it on mine for very little extra. You can never totally protect yourself from your bike getting nicked, but at least you can protect yourself again loss of money if it is. If my bike is lifted I get to go shopping for a new one and lose almost nothing! Obviously I have a lock too but its additional peace of mind

KTRIC

Skill Magill wrote: »

^^^^
How would we cut it though?

Oh :pac:

Big-Mac

Skill Magill wrote: »

^^^^
How would we cut it though?

oxy acetylene or a con saw.

Big-Mac

Big-Mac wrote: »

Where would you get this? I already have an Almax wouldn't Mind another, I priced grade 80 16mm chain at 40euro per Meter.

This is the place I was chatting to http://www.chainandrope.ie/products/chains group buy?

Only thing is what lock would you use?

Jimmy Garlic

Big-Mac wrote: »

a con saw.

They are going to draw a hell of a lot of attention to themselves with one of them.

Big-Mac

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

They are going to draw a hell of a lot of attention to themselves with one of them.

A good battery angle grinder will work too.

Buts that's the idea of these chains.

If someone starts using an angel grinder outside my bedroom window im going to hear them!