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madien heifer sold and didnt go incalf

  • 28-11-2013 1:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭


    i sold a few freisean madien hefiers in the mart last may for breeding , now i have a fellow that bought one of them on to me looking for a springing heifer off me as the one i sold last may did not go incalf for him , she is not a twin or anything like that , what grounds does do i have now


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    6480 wrote: »
    i sold a few freisean madien hefiers in the mart last may for breeding , now i have a fellow that bought one of them on to me looking for a springing heifer off me as the one i sold last may did not go incalf for him , she is not a twin or anything like that , what grounds does do i have now
    i would say he is chancing his arm, heifer was sold as is, there are so many variables as to why she didnt go in calf.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭dzer2


    How do you know he even AIed her. Have had a few here that I kept and they didnt go in calf. Its the luck of the draw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭thetangler


    6480 wrote: »
    i sold a few freisean madien hefiers in the mart last may for breeding , now i have a fellow that bought one of them on to me looking for a springing heifer off me as the one i sold last may did not go incalf for him , she is not a twin or anything like that , what grounds does do i have now

    Hi You sold her for breeding so therefore she has to be suitable for breeding.
    She needs to be scanned (a vets report is the only one thet will stand up in court) if she is suitable for breeding then you are ok otherwise you either need to take her back and compensate the buyer for feeeding normally around 2.50 per day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭6480


    whelan1 wrote: »
    i would say he is chancing his arm, heifer was sold as is, there are so many variables as to why she didnt go in calf.....

    i was thinking that myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    thetangler wrote: »
    Hi You sold her for breeding so therefore she has to be suitable for breeding.
    She needs to be scanned (a vets report is the only one thet will stand up in court) if she is suitable for breeding then you are ok otherwise you either need to take her back and compensate the buyer for feeeding normally around 2.50 per day.

    She was sold for breeding but not guaranteed in calf, you do not need to entertain this chancer at all. You don't know if she was served or even slipped calf. Tell him to [EMAIL="p@@s"]p@@s[/EMAIL] off as politely as you can


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    did you state that she was suitable for breeding or did you sell as seen

    if you stated suitable for breeding ask him to produce a valid vets report stating the heifer is not suitable for breeding and then you might entertain him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Damo810


    thetangler wrote: »
    Hi You sold her for breeding so therefore she has to be suitable for breeding.
    She needs to be scanned (a vets report is the only one thet will stand up in court) if she is suitable for breeding then you are ok otherwise you either need to take her back and compensate the buyer for feeeding normally around 2.50 per day.

    €912.50 to feed a heifer for one year? Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭6480


    Damo810 wrote: »
    €912.50 to feed a heifer for one year? Really?
    he will not get that from me any how


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8


    I think the thetangler bought her!

    its ridiculious he even suggested it, he hasnt a leg to stand on. could be many problems in his herd you dont know about, abortion, IBR and all associated infertility issues, hurts, fluke. that would drive me mad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,372 ✭✭✭893bet


    Is he a neighbor or do you know him in any way aside from that day in the mart?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭ferryman35


    Just out of interest - had a similar problem with some heifers, one of whom seemed to have no hope of getting in calf . Bloodtest revealed low copper level - apparently as a result of the wet year last year? Anyway, a copper bolus and
    sea weed feed and all in calf within weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭J DEERE


    Anytime you buy a maiden heifer in the mart then you buy with an understanding that she may/may not go in calf. If she doesn't, then you try her again or count your losses and fatten her up. Same goes with buying an in calf cow. You are buying with the understanding that things may not go according to plan and you may lose the calf. It's a gamble

    I wouldn't entertain that lad at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭mikeoh


    Tell him to fcuk off politely....... don't even entertain him tell him to deal with the mart where she was sold and for them to liase with you .......we have all bought stock ...some were lucky some not so lucky....but when the hammer drops she isn't ur anymore ...read the conditions of sale at any mart..animals sold in good fate etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    unless you said you were going to stand over her I think its tough titties for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭huey1975


    thetangler wrote: »
    Hi You sold her for breeding so therefore she has to be suitable for breeding.
    She needs to be scanned (a vets report is the only one thet will stand up in court) if she is suitable for breeding then you are ok otherwise you either need to take her back and compensate the buyer for feeeding normally around 2.50 per day.

    Last year I bought a bullock that was suitable for fattening and then he hasn't throve as much as I would have liked (irrespective of how I dosed him,how much concentrates he got, whether he got new grass or a field of rushes)I wonder will the previous owner give me a 780kg bullock in his place.
    Not ****ing likely


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    im shocked that he even asked .. enough cheek for two arses that boy!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    Bodacious wrote: »
    im shocked that he even asked .. enough cheek for two arses that boy!!

    Some people are unreal. I hope the op tells him where to go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    give him bobs no. bobs always looking for heifers that wont hold a calf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    1chippy wrote: »
    give him bobs no. bobs always looking for heifers that wont hold a calf

    It's bob that's calling him,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I bought a maiden heifer last May 12 months she failed to go incalf last year and failed again this year, I wonder could I go after him for 2 incalf heifers :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I bought a maiden heifer last May 12 months she failed to go incalf last year and failed again this year, I wonder could I go after him for 2 incalf heifers/quote]

    I have a cow that has only ever gone in calf to natural service with a pb SI weanling and failed to keep to AI on several occasions. I was going to sell her as a cull but now I wonder would I be better off demanding the previous owner give me a cow that's easier got in calf.

    In all seriousness I only ever heard of the opposite being a problem. A maiden heifer proving in calf. Maiden heifers come with no guarantee regarding breeding except as the term suggests they haven't been bred unless it's one that she's unsuitable for breeding. If the guy wants a guarantee of a heifer going in calf he should pay more and buy a springer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I bought a maiden heifer last May 12 months she failed to go incalf last year and failed again this year, I wonder could I go after him for 2 incalf heifers :D
    yes and you should also get the 2.50 a day aswell or whatever it has cost to feed her


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