Lely lotus 600 combi

135man

I am looking at upgrading my hay bobs currently have 2 pz hay bobs and was wondering are these hay bobs any good as the can turn 2 rows and rank 2 rows to will cut out an extra tractor and driver thanks.

Zr105

135man wrote: »

I am looking at upgrading my hay bobs currently have 2 pz hay bobs and was wondering are these hay bobs any good as the can turn 2 rows and rank 2 rows to will cut out an extra tractor and driver thanks.

There a good turner but not great for rowing up... I'll admit I've personally only used one once to row up but was very disappointed with it, seemed to pull the grass on past the gates and leave bits scattered between the rows.. But from talking to lads i know that have them they'd agree there not the best at raking.

They will be a far better job to turn hay than the pz though as they throw it up in to the air an spread it whereas the pz only really throws it along the ground no matter what you do...

135man

Thanks for the information the lely seem to be a good machine as you would get through a lot of ground fast

pat73

135man wrote: »

I am looking at upgrading my hay bobs currently have 2 pz hay bobs and was wondering are these hay bobs any good as the can turn 2 rows and rank 2 rows to will cut out an extra tractor and driver thanks.

I have a lely 600 for about 4 or 5 years.I used to be messing with a hay bob before that and I used dread the fine weather.A hay bob is grand for 3 or 4 acres but if ur doing a lot of hay a 600 is the smallest one u would want.The 600 is brilliant for tossing it out.I found the haybob making lumps out of the grass more than giving it a good toss out.The 600 will turn about 10 acres an hour.As for rowing up u cant beat the haybob.They clean up the field great in front of a square baler but the round baler man would like a rake instead.Not much to break in the 600.going from a haybob to a 600 is daunting at first but well worth it.I paid 3 grand for mine,its not a fancy red one but it works away grand for the 9 or 10 days a year its needed.Saying all that the weather is king.

Zr105

pat73 wrote: »

I have a lely 600 for about 4 or 5 years.I used to be messing with a hay bob before that and I used dread the fine weather.A hay bob is grand for 3 or 4 acres but if ur doing a lot of hay a 600 is the smallest one u would want.The 600 is brilliant for tossing it out.I found the haybob making lumps out of the grass more than giving it a good toss out.The 600 will turn about 10 acres an hour.As for rowing up u cant beat the haybob.They clean up the field great in front of a square baler but the round baler man would like a rake instead.Not much to break in the 600.going from a haybob to a 600 is daunting at first but well worth it.I paid 3 grand for mine,its not a fancy red one but it works away grand for the 9 or 10 days a year its needed.Saying all that the weather is king.

Meant to say before as above dose that the hay bob would be much better to rake, but ideally a big rake (single rotor)is the only job, even for the small square baler, have used one ahead of our square a few times and jus throw out a single width to one side, leaves more room between swarths and found the heavier swarth leads to a better bale as the pickup is always full

case956tom

135man wrote: »

I am looking at upgrading my hay bobs currently have 2 pz hay bobs and was wondering are these hay bobs any good as the can turn 2 rows and rank 2 rows to will cut out an extra tractor and driver thanks.

I have a lely lotus 600 stabillo tedder great machine to ted a 3m machine wouldn't suit my 7ft mower was always leaving part of the second swath, id go for a stabillo not the earlier fixed headstock,imo youd want to be putting it on a bigger tractor than a 135 they are fairly heavy,i use my one on a 4wd tractor 4wd sometimes needed if you hit a wet spot.

135man

case956tom wrote: »

I have a lely lotus 600 stabillo tedder great machine to ted a 3m machine wouldn't suit my 7ft mower was always leaving part of the second swath, id go for a stabillo not the earlier fixed headstock,imo youd want to be putting it on a bigger tractor than a 135 they are fairly heavy,i use my one on a 4wd tractor 4wd sometimes needed if you hit a wet spot.

What's it like to row up in front of a square baler I'd be making about 2000 square bales a year and want something a bit faster than a Pz no fault to the Pz. I understand you would want a 4wd have a 390 here so that's not a problem.

case956tom

135man wrote: »

What's it like to row up in front of a square baler I'd be making about 2000 square bales a year and want something a bit faster than a Pz no fault to the Pz. I understand you would want a 4wd have a 390 here so that's not a problem.

my one only teds didn't want a combi version as I herd they aren't that good at rowing up.

Zr105

If it was possible id get the Tedder but keep one of the pz's to row up with as they're a far superior at raking than the lely and 1 should keep ahead of the square baler handy enough...

moy83

135man wrote: »

What's it like to row up in front of a square baler I'd be making about 2000 square bales a year and want something a bit faster than a Pz no fault to the Pz. I understand you would want a 4wd have a 390 here so that's not a problem.

I dont know about the combi for rowing up but I make a few square bales of hay and haylage and never have trouble with heavy stuff going through the baler . I would get more trouble from clumps going in that throws the baler off its stride . Even in light rows it will throw a spanner in the works when you hit an unexpected heavy lump .

Irishmale

I have a lely 600 combi. Have it maybe 10 yrs now. It took maybe 6 of them to get to know it right. It will tes as good as any hay bob if you get it set up right and take your time. Sometimes it's frustrating doing light crops that you still have two scabby rows when one decent one would be better is the only thing.

135man

What's it like to row up does it leave the ground clean it would be rowing infront of a small square baler

Muckit

Irishmale wrote: »

Sometimes it's frustrating doing light crops that you still have two scabby rows when one decent one would be better is the only thing.

Could you go around a second time and bring two rows into one?

jimmy G M

135man wrote: »

What's it like to row up does it leave the ground clean it would be rowing infront of a small square baler

We have a Lely Lotus 300 (2 rotor version) here for over 20 years. Also a PZ haybob nearly as long.

Lely is far superior at scattering out grass than the PZ, particularly if you are trying for hay and the grass starts to get lumpy as it gets towards the hay stage. However it's much more awkward to use. Wheels are fixed rigid and you cant't really drive around corners as you will risk bending the wheels and also lumping the grass/throwing it up on the ditch. So you have to drive more or less in straight lines and lift and reverse at every corner.

LoTus is not as neat at raking as the haybob, no matter how you adjust ground speed and PTO speed, wheels, toplink etc it's just not as good and again not as handy to use as PZ due to corners.

We only use lotus to shake out if we are going for hay and always row up with the PZ. Doing round bales of silage we shake out and row up again with the PZ

From looking at the 600 in pictures it looks like rigid wheels so same problem as outlined above. Have a half eye out to get a 4 rotor machine myself sometime next year or two. This is what I would look for a PZ/Vicon Fanex, 4 rotors but with flexible wheels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na6nhfL8isM

case956tom

jimmy G M wrote: »

We have a Lely Lotus 300 (2 rotor version) here for over 20 years. Also a PZ haybob nearly as long.

Lely is far superior at scattering out grass than the PZ, particularly if you are trying for hay and the grass starts to get lumpy as it gets towards the hay stage. However it's much more awkward to use. Wheels are fixed rigid and you cant't really drive around corners as you will risk bending the wheels and also lumping the grass/throwing it up on the ditch. So you have to drive more or less in straight lines and lift and reverse at every corner.

LoTus is not as neat at raking as the haybob, no matter how you adjust ground speed and PTO speed, wheels, toplink etc it's just not as good and again not as handy to use as PZ due to corners.

We only use lotus to shake out if we are going for hay and always row up with the PZ. Doing round bales of silage we shake out and row up again with the PZ

From looking at the 600 in pictures it looks like rigid wheels so same problem as outlined above. Have a half eye out to get a 4 rotor machine myself sometime next year or two. This is what I would look for a PZ/Vicon Fanex, 4 rotors but with flexible wheels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na6nhfL8isM

a lely 600 stabillo doesn't have the same prob turning around corners as a 300,heres a vid short of my one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58RX_-9SFuI