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Do I need to teach another Subject?

  • 25-11-2013 5:02pm
    #1
    DylanII
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I currently have the decision between going straight into the PME (H.Dip) or first doing a higher diploma in English.

    My current degree would allow me to teach Accounting, Business, Economics and Geography. Would adding english make much of a difference when it comes to employment prospects? I can't really afford the hdip in english but if it would make a huge difference I might do it anyway.

    Any advice would be appreciated.


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  • #2
    Moody_mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭Moody_mona


    Have you checked with Teaching Council that you're able to teach all of those subjects? If you've only done one degree, it would actually be impossible to be qualified in all of those. Not to be negative!

    Business and Geography are a nice mix, you'll need to be careful about changes in the Junior Cert and how that will affect the subjects.


  • #3
    DylanII
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭DylanII


    Moody_mona wrote: »
    Have you checked with Teaching Council that you're able to teach all of those subjects? If you've only done one degree, it would actually be impossible to be qualified in all of those. Not to be negative!

    Business and Geography are a nice mix, you'll need to be careful about changes in the Junior Cert and how that will affect the subjects.

    Yea I checked multiple times with both the teaching council and my University.

    Its a major/minor program. I'm majoring in Finance and Economics and Minoring in Geography.

    The major modules overlap to allow for the Business, Economics and Accounting and the Minor Geography modules allow for my geography. I even asked if I need to complete any specific modules and they said no, my degree is fully approved.


  • #4
    Moody_mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭Moody_mona


    In that case, I don't think English is necessary.


  • #5
    Terri26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭Terri26


    in any case a higher diploma in English may not qualify you to teach English anyway you would have to check. I'm sure you are aware Business is one of the most over subscribed subjects but English is quite popular too


  • #6
    DylanII
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭DylanII


    Terri26 wrote: »
    in any case a higher diploma in English may not qualify you to teach English anyway you would have to check. I'm sure you are aware Business is one of the most over subscribed subjects but English is quite popular too

    Yes I know how oversubscribed business is. And I checked and I would be able to teach English (the course has been approved for others many many times) but I will have to pay €200 to have it assessed again.


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  • #7
    RealJohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    DylanII wrote: »
    .... (the course has been approved for others many many times) but I will have to pay €200 to have it assessed again.
    Unrelated but that's still a disgraceful situation that they can charge over and over again for a course they've already approved. If they've approved it, it should go straight on their list. Yet another example of the government stealing our money. What exactly are we paying €60 a year for if they're still charging us to 'assess' courses they've already assessed and approved?


  • #8
    DylanII
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭DylanII


    RealJohn wrote: »
    Unrelated but that's still a disgraceful situation that they can charge over and over again for a course they've already approved. If they've approved it, it should go straight on their list. Yet another example of the government stealing our money. What exactly are we paying €60 a year for if they're still charging us to 'assess' courses they've already assessed and approved?

    Yea and they are changing their system now that there will be no approved degrees anymore... Everyone will have to be assessed individually... Im sure that wont be cheap...


  • #9
    roxyworldgirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭roxyworldgirl


    Are you certain about geography? as its a minor would it not only be to junior cert?
    If so you may need a second subject to leaving cert level, non business related?


  • #10
    thefasteriwalk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭thefasteriwalk


    DylanII wrote: »
    Yea and they are changing their system now that there will be no approved degrees anymore... Everyone will have to be assessed individually... Im sure that wont be cheap...

    What? When is this happening? Christ, this really takes the fu*king biscuit!


  • #11
    Caiseoipe19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭Caiseoipe19


    roxyworldgirl wrote: »
    Are you certain about geography? as its a minor would it not only be to junior cert?
    If so you may need a second subject to leaving cert level, non business related?

    There's no such thing as being qualified to teach a subject just to JC. You're either qualified to teach it or not.


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  • #12
    thefasteriwalk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭thefasteriwalk


    roxyworldgirl wrote: »
    Are you certain about geography? as its a minor would it not only be to junior cert?
    If so you may need a second subject to leaving cert level, non business related?

    There's no such thing as 'only to Junior Cert.'

    OP, as an English teacher, I can tell it's incredibly over-subscribed. I certainly wouldn't be relying on it for a job. You have a lot in the subjects you currently have. I would do the PDE, have that out of the way and re-assess after a year or two post-PDE. The sooner you're a qualified teacher and get into the system the better. Especially with new entrants' pay and conditions being slashed year upon year. If you're finding it tough after the PDE, you could sub (hopefully - student numbers are rising) and do a H-dip in English in the evenings. That's what I'd be inclined to do anyway.


  • #13
    roxyworldgirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭roxyworldgirl


    Well yeah then I'll say it another way... The minor programme wouldn't give you enough credits to be registered but schools could give you the subject to jc


  • #14
    DylanII
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭DylanII


    roxyworldgirl wrote: »
    Well yeah then I'll say it another way... The minor programme wouldn't give you enough credits to be registered but schools could give you the subject to jc

    The Minor Subject accounts for 1/3 of my overall degree... It is enough credits to be registered.

    It also is possible to be able to teach only to JC level... for example economics teachers are also able to teach business to JC.


  • #15
    roxyworldgirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭roxyworldgirl


    DylanII wrote: »
    The Minor Subject accounts for 1/3 of my overall degree... It is enough credits to be registered.

    It also is possible to be able to teach only to JC level... for example economics teachers are also able to teach business to JC.
    Ah ok was just making sure as I know even some diplomas such as re in ucc tell you that their diploma won't cover you as 70 credits are needed and a minor was 60 as far as I knew but I didn't know it was ok if it was a third of your undergrad.


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