The old B+Q building

spankmemunkey

Just passing the old B+Q building today thinking how sad it was that its empty. Thinking what could be done with I thought why not open it up for artisan food stalls?

Something like corks english market, just for the saturday and if it takes off then it could go full time. Its a shame to see a building that size idle, a scene all too familliar around waterford and ireland

ex_infantry

spankmemunkey wrote: »

Just passing the old B+Q building today thinking how sad it was that its empty. Thinking what could be done with I thought why not open it up for artisan food stalls?

Something like corks english market, just for the saturday and if it takes off then it could go full time. Its a shame to see a building that size idle, a scene all too familliar around waterford and ireland

if the landlord was'nt so greddy maybe B+Q may still be there!!!!???

spankmemunkey

ex_infantry wrote: »

if the landlord was'nt so greddy maybe B+Q may still be there!!!!???

True, but it wud be nice to have something similar to the english market, just a decent food market with lots of different sellers in it, I don't think we have anything like that here.

ex_infantry

spankmemunkey wrote: »

True, but it wud be nice to have something similar to the english market, just a decent food market with lots of different sellers in it, I don't think we have anything like that here.

there will be plenty of that around town for winterval like last year

martin12

Would make a great Ice Rink plenty of space in there

spankmemunkey

ex_infantry wrote: »

there will be plenty of that around town for winterval like last year

Thats right. But it would be nice to have a food market all year round, Like Asian French etc etc, If it went full time it could also cater full time for all restaurants round town and the like, fish mongers, butchers etc etc. Like a mix between musgraves and the english market.

mike65

English Market type food fayre should only go in the town centre - is there anything much in The Broad Street Centre these days? What about the Cinema on Patricks Street?

wolf321

The building doesn't have the zoning for something like the English Market. Now something like IKEA would the best case scenario, but considering the size of IKEA shops they would probably need the entire business park.

spankmemunkey

wolf321 wrote: »

The building doesn't have the zoning for something like the English Market. Now something like IKEA would the best case scenario, but considering the size of IKEA shops they would probably need the entire business park.

The thing about it is and nobody picked up on it even me well i forgot, that theres already a type of food market in that business park right down the opposite end but its not really that vast and the building they use is very small, now i havent been in awhile maybe things have picked up a bit hopefully, when i went the thing was suppose to be at say 11 and the people on the stalls werent there til after 2 we heard. Anyway the point is just as a sunday thing or saturday thing on a larger scale and indoors. they seem to have permission to sell food there.

minibear

spankmemunkey wrote: »

The thing about it is and nobody picked up on it even me well i forgot, that theres already a type of food market in that business park right down the opposite end but its not really that vast and the building they use is very small, now i havent been in awhile maybe things have picked up a bit hopefully, when i went the thing was suppose to be at say 11 and the people on the stalls werent there til after 2 we heard. Anyway the point is just as a sunday thing or saturday thing on a larger scale and indoors. they seem to have permission to sell food there.

You're right there is a Market down beside Harvey Norman. It's on facebook and called Butlerstown Farmers Market. The announcement was made yesterday that up until Christmas it will run on both the Saturday and Sunday of every weekend from 10am til 5pm.

I don't know who owns the B&Q building but it is very large and if you had even 50 stalls it would still be virtually empty. Regarding the amount of traders, I suppose it's down to local support. The more support the market gets, the more traders will want to trade there and it keeps growing.. If a trader decides to try out a market and there's not much footfall, well they probably won't bother the next time it's on.

south

ex_infantry wrote: »

if the landlord was'nt so greddy maybe B+Q may still be there!!!!???

The landlord offered B&Q a year's free rent and they refused!

south

I think there was talks of maybe homestore and more going in but I haven't heard anything about it in the last few months

martin12

south wrote: »

The landlord offered B&Q a year's free rent and they refused!

Thats B.S.

Max Powers

i think the only place for a english market style market is in city centre. I doubt people would travel to such a market so it needs to be in city centre. If the economy improved and land became valuable again and jobs were around, someone like morriss builder provider im sure would be interested in it, if they could sell their existing place for good money.

mike65

Said that above, but Morris is hardly the centre.

Max Powers

mike65 wrote: »

Said that above, but Morris is hardly the centre.

no, morriss to move to B&Q in future if economy was all good. Yep, a market has to be in centre and covered. They have a great canopy thing in Limerick Millk Market. Similar thing in JR square, Cathedral Sq maybe, no areas jumping up as obvious choice.

wellboytoo

The old sorting office with its entrance on the Quays and Keyser street would be the obvious place for an English type market.

mike65

Actually that's a good one. Even handy for parking in the City Square

Max Powers

wellboytoo wrote: »

The old sorting office with its entrance on the Quays and Keyser street would be the obvious place for an English type market.

Market tried in there over last year and wasnt a success. It needs to be in peoples faces as people wont seek out anything in general, if its in front of their faces they might buy.

wellboytoo

Max Powers wrote: »

Market tried in there over last year and wasnt a success. It needs to be in peoples faces as people wont seek out anything in general, if its in front of their faces they might buy.

Location location location Max its still the three main rules about retail...:-)
Footfall

Jason Todd

I used to have a stall in the Market in the old sorting office. To be honest, not a lot of people came to us. There wasn't much of a budget for advertising either however. In my time there the stalls grew in size and variety and there was still never large groups of people coming through.

The busiest day we ever saw was St. Patricks Day, and even then not a lot of money was spent.

I visited the Butlerstown Market on Saturday. The poor vendors were freezing outside, when I asked one of them why they wouldn't move the whole lot inside the empty unit he said even less people would come in then.

These things have to be right in peoples faces and have to have high footfall as people are reluctant to stop and talk if there isn't a group around them, sort of like a herd mentality.

Motivator

south wrote: »

The landlord offered B&Q a year's free rent and they refused!

Rubbish.

dzilla

would the parnell street shopping unites, where rainbow records used to be be useful for such a venture.... or the rugby club building on parnell street

spankmemunkey

Peeps theres already food markets in the city centre on sat or sunday. The general premis was that its a shame to see that building empty and what cud go in there.

old gregg

call me nostalgic but this old bastard would love to see savagely fast indoor Karting so I could re-live my glory days. B&Q would be perfect

For Forks Sake

spankmemunkey wrote: »

Just passing the old B+Q building today thinking how sad it was that its empty. Thinking what could be done with I thought why not open it up for artisan food stalls?

Something like corks english market, just for the saturday and if it takes off then it could go full time. Its a shame to see a building that size idle, a scene all too familliar around waterford and ireland

What, like the one that already runs on Saturdays (and now Sundays till christmas) in the empty unit the other end of the park next to Harvey Norman?? https://www.facebook.com/ButlerstownMarket

leduke

I agree with spankmemunkey, it is a shame to see such a building idle when it is suitable for various types of business (ie size an location).

old Gregg your suggestion is the best so far and something Waterford doesn't have!!!

thomasm

Was the place that was previously the handmade furniture company on the Quay not turned into an indoor market.

mike65

This thread is mainly illustrating just how many quite large empty spaces there are in the City.

spankmemunkey

For Forks Sake wrote: »

What, like the one that already runs on Saturdays (and now Sundays till christmas) in the empty unit the other end of the park next to Harvey Norman?? https://www.facebook.com/ButlerstownMarket

You obviously havent been reading the full thread as i pointed this fact out already as have some other posters.

spankmemunkey

old gregg wrote: »

call me nostalgic but this old bastard would love to see savagely fast indoor Karting so I could re-live my glory days. B&Q would be perfect

A pallet trolley would do me fine few pumps jump on the back and scoot away, great fun.

I think there was a go karting place set up just across from six cross roads there, didnt last long at all.

There was a market in the old furniture place on the key, the problem is a food market to attract people needs to be large with many stalls and lots of variety.

shockwave

The rent on that place must be huge,I doubt anyone could afford to move in there.

spankmemunkey

shockwave wrote: »

The rent on that place must be huge,I doubt anyone could afford to move in there.

No but im sure a market of a sat or sunday would bring in some money rather than no money.

robtri

spankmemunkey wrote: »

No but im sure a market of a sat or sunday would bring in some money rather than no money.

Possibly, but after overheads and especially business rates on that place, it probably be not worth it

taytobreath

if they are looking for the same money as b&q have been giving, they will be vacant for a long time

RubyK

Anyone else hear that B&Q are supposed to be opening in Ferrybank?

Nypd

RubyK wrote: »

Anyone else hear that B&Q are supposed to be opening in Ferrybank?

I actually heard that yesterday, if it happened out there it wouldn't have Hugh implications for the city centre.

thomasm

Nypd wrote: »

I actually heard that yesterday, if it happened out there it wouldn't have Hugh implications for the city centre.

No suitable place for them in there from what I know of it. When you consider the size of the old store and type of store they need I don't see how it would work tbh.