citizens arrest

cena

Have you ever had to do the citizens arrest thing. Is it legal in ireland to do?

never done it myself.

B.A._Baracus

Quite frankly,
I would laugh at a person trying to perform a citizens arrest in Ireland :pac:

D1stant

I tried it once in a chipper in Mullingar. Didn't end well. I was picking bits of battered sausage out of me hole for weeks.

PizzamanIRL

D1stant wrote: »

I tried it once in Mullingar in a chipper. Didn't end well. I was picking bits of battered sausage out of me hole for weeks.

Go on tell us the story.

cena

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Quite frankly,
I would laugh at a person trying to perform a citizens arrest in Ireland :pac:

It would be funny to see in Ireland

Too Tough To Die

No citizens arrests but i have dished out a considerable amount of street justice.

Fred Swanson

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BNMC

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So that would mean if I seen a girl being raped I wouldn't be able to do anything?

Fred Swanson

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B.A._Baracus

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Not in Ireland, Fred (and that's what BNMC was making reference too, short sentencing for rape)

michael999999

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Seeing as rape carries a life imprisonment term, you can arrest away.

Not if you can afford to pay 75k compo!

lertsnim

I've seen someone try it. It didn't go too well for him.

porsche959

michael999999 wrote: »

Not if you can afford to pay 75k compo!

It's a disgrace Joe.

Fred Swanson

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Pat Mustard

cena wrote: »

Is it legal in ireland to do?

It is, under certain circumstances. It's really there as a stopgap to allow people to detain a criminal until the guards get there. More here.

cena wrote: »

Have you ever had to do the citizens arrest thing.

Not personally, no. It has been done before though. See here.

AROUND 40 NEIGHBOURS from the village of Turloughmore, Co Galway, used their power of citizen’s arrest when they apprehended three men who were attempting to burgle the home of an elderly couple in the area.

Around 40 people turned up and managed to surround the men in an open-field and hold them down until the Gardaí arrived.

NuckingFacker

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" Halt!, stand still there my good man. I may well be performing a citizens arrest upon your person momentarily. Just hang on while I consult 'Old Rogers Legal Almanac' for the going rate for stroking me central heating oil....ummmm......nope, off you go so, good lad".

Agricola

I think the notion of a citizens arrest might only work in countries like Switzerland or Belgium. Maybe Japan too. I think they would thank you for bringing their own antisocial behavior to the attention of the authorities. No, not in Ireland or anywhere else probably.

anncoates

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

No citizens arrests but i have dished out a considerable amount of street justice.

Great stuff

You hardly see anybody breakdancing these days.

Guy:Incognito

Are security guards in shops not effectively making citizens arrests when they catch and detain shop lifters?

Santa Cruz

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Are security guards in shops not effectively making citizens arrests when they catch and detain shop lifters?

Yes they are. Whats your point?

Fred Swanson

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Mr. Tom

The sleeping fox catches no "citizens arrest".

Guy:Incognito

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Yes they are. Whats your point?

Is shoplifting a 5 year offence?

Guy:Incognito

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So theres not really any reason for the whole citizens arrest thing to be ridiculed and the 5 year thing to be used in a way to suggest its very hard to use a citizens arrest here for anything short of rape and murder when the reality is that most things that anyone would actually bother making a citizens arrest for would be covered.

biko

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/act/pub/0014/sec0004.html#sec4

I think it boils down to that the person you "arrest" is commiting an offence that can lead to jail time. Second you have to believe that he or she is trying to flee. Thirdly you must detain them until Garda arrives and take ownership ot the situation.

Fred Swanson

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Santa Cruz

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is shoplifting a 5 year offence?

Shoplifting is Theft. If tried before the Circuit Court a sentence of five years can be gvien

ballsymchugh

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Yes they are. Whats your point?

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he was asking a question, not making a point.

wandatowell

Citizens arrest? More like giving a person a chance to sue the hole off ya for personal injury.


I'd keep well away.

hotbabe1992

I witnessed a citizens arrest of a junkie in a shop,the shop assistant just locked the door and said citizens arrest im calling the guards..

Anyway it transpired in the end that the junkie took a civil action against the shop for false imprisonment..

Sir Humphrey Appleby

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Not in Ireland, Fred (and that's what BNMC was making reference too, short sentencing for rape)

The maximum sentence for rape in Ireland is Life Imprisonment.

NuckingFacker

hotbabe1992 wrote: »

I witnessed a citizens arrest of a junkie in a shop,the shop assistant just locked the door and said citizens arrest im calling the guards..

Anyway it transpired in the end that the junkie took a civil action against the shop for false imprisonment..

And there lies the rub. You make the arrest, the judge has one too many Ports for lunch, decides it's all been an unfortunate mistake and junkie boy was only testing the merchandise and then JB sues the azz off you for inpinging on their human rights.

Just goes to show, there has to be a case made for simply opening fire with your Glock and claiming you felt threatened. Which is Ireland speak for "do nothing till the Gards come and JB gets a slap on the wrist, assuming they actually bother prosecuting him". Cos lets face it, who the fukc has a glock when you need one. Or ever, even..

D1stant

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Are security guards in shops not effectively making citizens arrests when they catch and detain shop lifters?

Well.. Security Guards are not strictly citizens - they exist under sub clause, sub species, section 12, along with traffic wardens, bouncers and TV license inspectors but yes. Sort of.