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Development contributions

  • 24-11-2013 11:55am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭


    Hi Just have a question regarding Development contribution, is the fees based on condition when planning permission granted (ie indexed linked)or scheme rates when building commenced say a year later?


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Both
    " Index linked" means it's linked to the wholesale price index at time of commencement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭donegal11


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Both
    " Index linked" means it's linked to the wholesale price index at time of commencement.

    Could you give me an example

    Say I applied/granted planning in 07 under an 06/07 contribution scheme and commenced in 2010 when a new 08-11 scheme came into affect. Would I pay new rates that weren't on my planning permission? where does indexing and commencement come into play?

    like this from kildare would imply not.
    "Development Contribution Scheme - Kildare County Council 2011-2018 effective from 8th September 2011. The revised charges will be applied to all planning permissions granted on or after the 8th September 2011."

    Say got permission in 2007 contribution in planning 3000 new rates in new 2010 scheme are 5000, which is indexed linked and why


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    The applicable rate is the rate in the development plan at the time of grant.

    We have cases now of reapplications because current rates are lower, much lower in regards to things like car parking etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭donegal11


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    The applicable rate is the rate in the development plan at the time of grant.

    We have cases now of reapplications because current rates are lower, much lower in regards to things like car parking etc

    So the rates at the granting of permission/development plan in 07 are used ? what happens at commencement with the wholesale index? Would that mean charges @grant are moved in line with the building index to get contribution at commencement?

    Sorry for all the questions


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    donegal11 wrote: »
    So the rates at the granting of permission/development plan 07 are used ? what happens at commencement with the wholesale index? Would that mean charges @grant are moved in line with the building index to get contribution at commencement?

    Sorry for all the questions

    All I can say is yes that is generally the situation. The wpi at date of grant is compared to the one at commencement and adjustments made.

    A phone call to your local authority in the morning will clear this up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭donegal11


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    All I can say is yes that is generally the situation. The wpi at date of grant is compared to the one at commencement and adjustments made.

    A phone call to your local authority in the morning will clear this up.

    That's what I would take it as but have not knowledge of the process so I wouldn't know whether they can charge the new charges when not listed on planning permission.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    donegal11 wrote: »
    That's what I would take it as but have not knowledge of the process so I wouldn't know whether they can charge the new charges when not listed on planning permission.

    "Not listed"....??

    How is it phrased? Exactly.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭donegal11


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    "Not listed"....??

    How is it phrased? Exactly.....
    The amount of the contribution will be as set out below and is determined in accordance with the "County Council Development Contribution Scheme 2007" The total contribution and breakdown of same in respect of the different classes of public infrastructure and facilities provided/to be provided by the Authority are


    Water € xxxx
    Sewer € xxx
    Town & Village Renewal € xxxx
    Roads € xxxx
    total xxxx

    The above charges shall be index linked from 1st January each year following imposition of the levy in accordance with the Wholesale Price Index for Building and Construction published by the Central Statistics Office.

    Then another scheme started in 2009 with different rates and different charges (social charges etc)


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    As the Condition speciFically refers to the 2007 development plan then I'm ConFident there's no ambiguity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭donegal11


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    As the Condition speciFically refers to the 2007 development plan then I'm ConFident there's no ambiguity.

    Yeah your right, fees are @ grant date (index linked)and only become liable at commencement


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭db


    No sure how other councils do it but in Clare it can be adjusted at time of payment if the contributions have changed since the permission was granted. In my case I had a small increase that I had to pay. I'm not sure if they would reduce it though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭donegal11


    db wrote: »
    No sure how other councils do it but in Clare it can be adjusted at time of payment if the contributions have changed since the permission was granted. In my case I had a small increase that I had to pay. I'm not sure if they would reduce it though.

    Increased is line with index, new schemes replacing old ones with vastly different rates only apply to new applications


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