Hairline slit in pipe from ice

grange mac

Lads,

Any of ye come accross 3/4" heavy guage alkakine pipe bursting from ice before. Have no water in farm since friday...still frozen today...

Have opened up joiners and came water is trickling out of some of the pipes but noticed a 10' slit in the pipe. Cant have been more than minus 5 so am in big trouble if there are more like this in pipe.

Needless to say will b having a chat to coop tomorrow as have 6 150m coils down since summer...must get water to bullocks first though.

49801

No problem with normal gauge here

Any risk it was driven over in the past?

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grange mac wrote: »

Lads,

Any of ye come accross 3/4" heavy guage alkakine pipe bursting from ice before. Have no water in farm since friday...still frozen today...

Have opened up joiners and came water is trickling out of some of the pipes but noticed a 10' slit in the pipe. Cant have been more than minus 5 so am in big trouble if there are more like this in pipe.

Needless to say will b having a chat to coop tomorrow as have 6 150m coils down since summer...must get water to bullocks first though.

Have normal gauge 1" buried here no problems with it. Haven't really seen pipe to burst with ice normally it's the fittings give way first. The pipe usually will expand a good bit but the fittings can't .

grange mac

49801 wrote: »

No problem with normal gauge here

Any risk it was driven over in the past?

I only put it down in june, along ditch inside electric fence. Pipe still half frozen as icicles coming thru pipe half width of pipe. Am in trouble if in more than one section.

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grange mac wrote: »

I only put it down in june, along ditch inside electric fence. Pipe still half frozen as icicles coming thru pipe half width of pipe. Am in trouble if in more than one section.

I guessing its all overground ? Really you should not have a problem with the pipe itself more likely the joiners would burst. Unless it is a hard hg polythene and instead of stretching its has burst because the joiners didn't give way.
Have had 3/4 in lying on the ground before frozen and it didn't burst

munkus

How deep is the pipe buried, or is it on the ground?

grange mac

munkus wrote: »

How deep is the pipe buried, or is it on the ground?

Its over ground, and cannot buried as rock just underneath surface. Have philmac fittings held fine slit is back 3 inches back from end of pipe.

49801

Perhaps heavy gauge to rigid and could not flex so split instead.

johnpawl

Same happened me two years ago with two different rolls of normal gauge alkathene half inch pipe. Pipe split longitudinally when frozen. It was overground. Same happened on pipe leading to water troughs in shed. Philmac fittings did not split.It was brand new pipe, never driven on or anything like that.

grange mac

johnpawl wrote: »

Same happened me two years ago with two different rolls of normal gauge alkathene half inch pipe. Pipe split longitudinally when frozen. It was overground. Same happened on pipe leading to water troughs in shed. Philmac fittings did not split.It was brand new pipe, never driven on or anything like that.

Did you get any satisfaction from person you bought pipe from? Pipe should not split like that. Still planing to have words over pipe...broke my heart this evening bucketing water. But at least frost is gone, now all I have to do is find the rest of the cracks in pipe!!

johnpawl

Bought it from the local co-op. never went back with it tbh just cut out the patches that split and stuck in Philmac fittings. Should have gotten replacement rolls now looking back

jp6470

As an ex plumber.ive seen all pipes,all makes,in all locations not just joints or at the ends.bust.
if it's not protected, its at risk.
Frost must have started at one end,working its way back and the pressure etc caused the spilt

grange mac

jp6470 wrote: »

As an ex plumber.ive seen all pipes,all makes,in all locations not just joints or at the ends.bust.
if it's not protected, its at risk.
Frost must have started at one end,working its way back and the pressure etc caused the spilt

Coop said will stand over pipe, brought them in a sample but they are now going to get onto cork plastics ( after I kicked up a stinker regarding i want all 6 coils replaced or they pay for all philmac joiners that will be required) so will replace but as pipe cannot be buried should I go with normal or heavy guage?