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Metallurgy Query - Welding cutting blades

  • 21-11-2013 5:33pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭


    Hi, I am not sure if this would be the right forum but if any engineers or metallurgists (or anyone in the know) could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.

    The query is this, on a grass cutting mower, would excessive welding of the cutting blades (21 blades approx) weaken the structural integrity of the unit? can pm the photos for an opinion...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭Turbulent Bill


    It's possible, but I don't know how likely it is. Welding can create brittle heat affected zones, and combined with the vibration loading from the mower it could lead to fatigue failure.

    Photos of an intact unit won't tell a lot ;you'd need to get an analysis of the metal composition and any existing cracks. If it's already broken, the appearance of the broken surface can suggest whether it's fatigue or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Ray13


    Photos show excessive badly welded components, distorted blades etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭mawk


    If you cannot get a new blade for it, I would recommend grinding the welds flat which would show up a lot of faults. Tig weld in any voids then temper to remove internal stress before hardening back to a cutting edge.

    Or.. And this is only if it's not a safety issue, try using the mower. Maybe they are stronger welds than they look. I'm not familiar with the mower and don't know how the blades are housed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Ray13


    mawk wrote: »
    If you cannot get a new blade for it, I would recommend grinding the welds flat which would show up a lot of faults. Tig weld in any voids then temper to remove internal stress before hardening back to a cutting edge.

    Or.. And this is only if it's not a safety issue, try using the mower. Maybe they are stronger welds than they look. I'm not familiar with the mower and don't know how the blades are housed

    Thanks, what's ur expertise in the area? Sounds good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Ray13


    Ray13 wrote: »
    Thanks, what's ur expertise in the area? Sounds good

    Is welding blades bad practice?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭Turbulent Bill


    Another issue might be that the distortions and welds are unbalancing the blades, leading to premature failure of bearings etc. Without knowing what happened it's just guesswork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭mawk


    Ray13 wrote: »
    Is welding blades bad practice?

    It's very common in fixing band saw blades. Lawnmowers.. No idea.


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