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  • 21-11-2013 3:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭


    Basically I'm writing an essay and I can't remember a certain word. Tip of the tongue if you will, extremely frustrating. The definition is very vague and hard to articulate, thats why I'm struggling to find it. The word basically describes something which is not real in a physical form but is implied as such for example. They were beaten in the
    tunnel. Its similar to a metaphor.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    proverbial?


  • Site Banned Posts: 23 Black cat banger


    Route1 wrote: »
    Basically I'm writing an essay and I can't remember a certain word. Tip of the tongue if you will, extremely frustrating. The definition is very vague and hard to articulate, thats why I'm struggling to find it. The word basically describes something which is not real in a physical form but is implied as such for example. They were beaten in the
    tunnel. Its similar to a metaphor.

    "Virtual" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Route1 wrote: »
    Basically I'm writing an essay and I can't remember a certain word. Tip of the tongue if you will, extremely frustrating. The definition is very vague and hard to articulate, thats why I'm struggling to find it. The word basically describes something which is not real in a physical form but is implied as such for example. They were beaten in the
    tunnel. Its similar to a metaphor.

    Qualia?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Route1


    kjl wrote: »
    proverbial?

    thats the one cheers mate. My explanation was a little vague sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Blackhorse Slim


    Figuratively?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Blackhorse Slim


    Too late!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    Too late!

    in the ops context it would be figurative or figural


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭tmc86


    shortest AH thread ever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Miprocin


    Given answer is wrong. What proverb do you refer to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Hmm..that's not what proverbial means


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Proverbially metaphysical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    tmc86 wrote: »
    shortest AH thread ever!

    Tempted to start a thread about dwarves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Miprocin wrote: »
    Given answer is wrong. What proverb do you refer to?

    This is right, proverbial doesn't mean not real in a physical form it means from a proverb.

    Making a reference to the proverb without repeating the proverb. Or using proverbial to omit a word from the proverb and giving the same effect.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    They were beaten in the
    tunnel.

    'anal'


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is right, proverbial doesn't mean not real in a physical form it means from a proverb.

    Making a reference to the proverb without repeating the proverb. Or using proverbial to omit a word from the proverb and giving the same effect.

    Close but no, proverbial, cigar. It refers to idioms as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Close but no, proverbial, cigar. It refers to idioms as well.

    You're taking the proverbial Biscuit there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    Insert Yes or No in this space

    ____ I don't understand English!


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    They were beaten in the
    tunnel

    'Jack Lynch'


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Route1 wrote: »
    Basically I'm writing an essay and I can't remember a certain word. Tip of the tongue if you will,
    Apex. It's the word for the tip of the tongue.

    you can thank me later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Is this it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭Mr. Nice


    Route1 wrote: »
    They were beaten in the
    tunnel. Its similar to a metaphor.

    Railway


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sexual?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭131spanner


    Metaphorical?

    Fire that word into an essay and you can take it in whatever direction you want :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Route1 wrote: »
    Basically I'm writing an essay and I can't remember a certain word. Tip of the tongue if you will, extremely frustrating. The definition is very vague and hard to articulate, thats why I'm struggling to find it. The word basically describes something which is not real in a physical form but is implied as such for example. They were beaten in the
    tunnel. Its similar to a metaphor.

    I'd recommend you read George Orwell's "Politics and the English Language", if you did, you wouldn't even be asking for words like that to place in essays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    "They were beaten in the proverbial tunnel" ????

    That's some line OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I'd recommend you read George Orwell's "Politics and the English Language", if you did, you wouldn't even be asking for words like that to place in essays.

    that's non-fiction, right? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Like 'the ghost in the machine'?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Goat


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    "I can't write my own essay"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Channel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Never try and use words you don't understand, just change the sentence.

    Otherwise you'll end up with phrases like "beaten in the proverbial tunnel" which is all sorts of wrong.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Marmalade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭Mr. Nice


    Fudge


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Ethereal is a good word for what I think you are describing, although not in the case of getting a beating in an ethereal tunnel.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    I've been sitting here now for over an hour and a half and I'm stumped by this.....I really have to start doing something with my life :)

    The only conceivable context I can imagine such a line in is if one is trying to say a football team was "beaten in the tunnel", i.e they were beaten before they even came out.

    Is this possible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Route1


    catallus wrote: »
    I've been sitting here now for over an hour and a half and I'm stumped by this.....I really have to start doing something with my life :)

    The only conceivable context I can imagine such a line in is if one is trying to say a football team was "beaten in the tunnel", i.e they were beaten before they even came out.

    Is this possible?

    yes, that was the context.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Route1 wrote: »
    yes, that was the context.

    An idiom maybe


  • Site Banned Posts: 23 Black cat banger


    catallus wrote: »
    I've been sitting here now for over an hour and a half and I'm stumped by this.....I really have to start doing something with my life :)

    The only conceivable context I can imagine such a line in is if one is trying to say a football team was "beaten in the tunnel", i.e they were beaten before they even came out.

    Is this possible?

    Yes it is ...happens to the Kilkenny Football team all de time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    Beaten in the Proverbial Tunnel is actually the title of the second album by prog folk rock outfit Fat Matress:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Mattress

    They premiered it at the Isle of Wight Festival in 1969 and one track off it, Magic Forest, became a huge smash in the Netherlands.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    I will now display my English/Welsh expertise.

    I'll be there now, in a minute.

    Who's coat 's that jacket ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    I will now display my English/Welsh expertise.

    I'll be there now, in a minute.

    Who's coat 's that jacket ?

    See those 2 houses on the hill? I live in the middle one.

    I came out out the shop, and there was my bike, gone!

    Are you reading that newspaper your sitting on?

    Tidy. You know's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭minotour


    catallus wrote: »
    I've been sitting here now for over an hour and a half and I'm stumped by this.....I really have to start doing something with my life :)

    The only conceivable context I can imagine such a line in is if one is trying to say a football team was "beaten in the tunnel", i.e they were beaten before they even came out.

    Is this possible?

    ok, with some context we can now help you better. Fookin "proverbial", word has lost all meaning to me now!

    anyway, look up some Sun Tzu quotes, he has loads of nuggets that float around that context. Only the victorious go to war etc. etc, it will also help clear out that writers block.

    You could also find a similar instance in history and use as a nice metaphor to back up your statement. Think wars, negotiations, strikes, anything with a competitive focus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    See those 2 houses on the hill? I live in the middle one.

    I came out out the shop, and there was my bike, gone!

    Are you reading that newspaper your sitting on?

    Tidy. You know's it.


    I'm all homesick now I am see ?


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