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Marian Price-McGlinchey guilty

  • 21-11-2013 3:16pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭


    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/21/marian-price-mclinchey-guilty-murder-soldiers-belfast
    An Old Bailey bomber and former IRA hunger striker has pleaded guilty to providing a mobile phone to republican dissidents behind the murder of two soldiers in 2009.

    Hopefully this will be the end of the free marian price nonsense from the main republican party's, I am sure we can all now agree that this vile witch should spend the rest of her days at her majesty's pleasure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    I imagine it's part of a deal to keep her out of jail, can't see her pleading guilt under any other circumstance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    gallag wrote: »
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/21/marian-price-mclinchey-guilty-murder-soldiers-belfast
    An Old Bailey bomber and former IRA hunger striker has pleaded guilty to providing a mobile phone to republican dissidents behind the murder of two soldiers in 2009.

    Hopefully this will be the end of the free marian price nonsense from the main republican party's, I am sure we can all now agree that this vile witch should spend the rest of her days at her majesty's pleasure.

    I agree. Tesco security cameras helped nail her. Every little helps.

    She will probably get out soon for some imaginary reason. (Illness etc) I wonder will Sinn Fein and others admit they were wrong in standing up for this "vile witch" as you put it. It's obvious she is a very hateful and dangerous old woman.

    You would think she's getting on a bit for this sort of carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I agree. Tesco security cameras helped nail her. Every little helps.

    She will probably get out soon for some imaginary reason. (Illness etc) I wonder will Sinn Fein and others admit they were wrong in standing up for this "vile witch" as you put it. It's obvious she is a very hateful and dangerous old woman.

    You would think she's getting on a bit for this sort of carry on.
    Her illness is not imaginary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Any support for Marion Price that I seen and gave was always based on the denial of her human rights. That the British succumbed to worldwide pressure to grant her human rights vindicates my position on her anyway.
    Let fairly administered justice take it's course now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Any support for Marion Price that I seen and gave was always based on the denial of her human rights. That the British succumbed to worldwide pressure to grant her human rights vindicates my position on her anyway.
    Let fairly administered justice take it's course now.
    Indeed.

    I suspect they have done what they wanted, break her. Marian Price would never have pleaded guilty (even if she did it) to anything in a British court in the past


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Indeed.

    I suspect they have done what they wanted, break her. Marian Price would never have pleaded guilty (even if she did it) to anything in a British court in the past

    Maybe she has given them what they need to know about the dissidents, and they have promised her an early release if she pleads guilty. Who knows?

    The dissidents seem to leak like a sieve and when you consider how even a "supposedly" elite terrorist organisation the ira was infiltrated then god knows with the sort of criminals involved in the dissidents. (Real ira, Continuity IRA, the new ira, the I can't believe it's not the IRa)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭tomdempsey200


    gallag wrote: »
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/21/marian-price-mclinchey-guilty-murder-soldiers-belfast
    I am sure we can all now agree that this vile witch should spend the rest of her days at her majesty's pleasure.

    I don't agree with your provocative statement


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Indeed.

    I suspect they have done what they wanted, break her. Marian Price would never have pleaded guilty (even if she did it) to anything in a British court in the past

    Supporting someone who has broken the ceasefire?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    Supporting someone who has broken the ceasefire?
    What ceasefire?

    All I'm saying is that it is very uncharacteristic of her to plead guilty, I reckon she's just had enough and this is some kind of plea deal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Hopefully she will get life for her part in the murders of the two soldiers and the attempt to murder the Pizza delivery guy.
    What say those who for so long claimed she was innocent and framed, proves the Sec of State was correct to revoke her parole for her earlier crimes .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    Hopefully she will get life for her part in the murders of the two soldiers and the attempt to murder the Pizza delivery guy.
    What say those who for so long claimed she was innocent and framed, proves the Sec of State was correct to revoke her parole for her earlier crimes .
    Colin Duffy spent a long time in jail on remand for something he did not to. Brian Shivers was sentenced to die in jail. (he has a terminal illness) He was acquitted of everything after a retrial, but even so he has had a lot of his limited time remaining stolen from him.

    How much bile was spewed about these two men, in particular Shivers, at the time?

    There are also serious question marks over the convictions of the Craigavon Two, having followed the appeal I expect their conviction will be quashed in the next while when the judgment is delivered.

    Martin Corey has spent years in jail without being told why, with evidence hidden from him, in effect scuppering any attempt to appeal against his imprisonment. His legal right to an annual review has been ignored, he hasn't had one for two years.

    On the balance of evidence it seems the human rights campaigners have been "right" in these types of cases and that the actions of the courts, PSNI and the secretary of state warrant intense scrutiny.

    You have adopted a stupid position, which is that her guilty plea retrospectively justifies her imprisonment. So, according to you, there is no need for a trial? Why bother? The "golden thread" in civilized law is the principle that a person is innocent until proven guilty. Not according to you it seems.


    The issue with Marian Price has always been that she should be not be jailed without having been convicted of these charges. Another factor was that given her very precarious health she should be released, as recommended by a number of doctors. The arguments for her release did not rest on a claim that she was "innocent" but that she was innocent until proven guilty and that this should be ascertained through the courts and that the secretary of state was not judge and jury. (well... they scrapped jurys didn't they)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Colin Duffy spent a long time in jail on remand for something he did not to. Brian Shivers was sentenced to die in jail. (he has a terminal illness) He was acquitted of everything after a retrial, but even so he has had a lot of his limited time remaining stolen from him.

    How much bile was spewed about these two men, in particular Shivers, at the time?

    There are also serious question marks over the convictions of the Craigavon Two, having followed the appeal I expect their conviction will be quashed in the next while when the judgment is delivered.

    Martin Corey has spent years in jail without being told why, with evidence hidden from him, in effect scuppering any attempt to appeal against his imprisonment. His legal right to an annual review has been ignored, he hasn't had one for two years.

    On the balance of evidence it seems the human rights campaigners have been "right" in these types of cases and that the actions of the courts, PSNI and the secretary of state warrant intense scrutiny.

    You have adopted a stupid position, which is that her guilty plea retrospectively justifies her imprisonment. So, according to you, there is no need for a trial? Why bother? The "golden thread" in civilized law is the principle that a person is innocent until proven guilty. Not according to you it seems.


    The issue with Marian Price has always been that she should be not be jailed without having been convicted of these charges. Another factor was that given her very precarious health she should be released, as recommended by a number of doctors. The arguments for her release did not rest on a claim that she was "innocent" but that she was innocent until proven guilty and that this should be ascertained through the courts and that the secretary of state was not judge and jury. (well... they scrapped jurys didn't they)
    She was in Jail because she was already found guilty and released on life licence which she broke.
    She was given a chance she didn't even deserve and she used that chance to commit more crimes.
    No amount of obfuscation can change that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    What ceasefire?

    All I'm saying is that it is very uncharacteristic of her to plead guilty, I reckon she's just had enough and this is some kind of plea deal.

    Maybe the IRA are not making them like they used to? People get addicted to peace and being able to go about their business and plan daily routines and their lives without having to worry about terror or murders.

    The likes of her deciding peoples fates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    Internment of Martin Corey and co "kafkaesque" according to Parole Commission

    I suppose they are also supporters of baby killers or something suitably hyperbolic?

    http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/28082


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