You did say Jabara Airport, didn't you?

Tabnabs

Someone had too much coffee, or too little sleep?

A Boeing jet is sitting on the runway at Wichita's Jabara Airport - and may be stuck there for awhile.

Elizabeth Cory with the Federal Aviation Administration in Washington tells KAKE News a Boeing 747 LCF Dreamlifter landed at Jabara around 10:20 Wednesday night. Statements from the city of Wichtia confirm the cargo plane was heading for McConnell Air Force Base.

It's not clear if the jet landed at Jabara by mistake, or for some other reason. Cory says the F.A.A. will investigate that deviation from schedule.

KAKE News has confirmed Boeing is sending a tug to Jabara Airport to turn around the jet. But the tug can only travel ten miles per hour, so the process may take several hours.

Several people tell KAKE News the Dreamlifter is too large for the Jabara runway. It also may be too big for takeoff from Jabara's 6,100-foot runway.

The Wichita Airport Authority tells KAKE News it is assembling a "packet of information" for the media, concerning what happened.

The jet reportedly is owned by Atlas Air of Purchase, New York, and had a two-person crew.

Wichita emergency crews say they were not sent to the airport, so no one was injured in the landing. No property damage is reported at Jabara.

http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/Boeing-jet-lands-at-Jabara-Airport-232781081.html

urajoke

How was this not spotted by ATC, enroute, approach or at the towers and let land. It's 10 miles north of its destination it should have been noticed it was descending well below a normal altitude.

Good luck turning it the runway is 30m wide. I imagine them two will not have a nice cup of tea with the boss.

murphaph

What if the runway is indeed too short for a takeoff? I guess the only option here is for the operator or their insurance company (can you get insurance against stupidity?) will have to pay for a free upgrade of that runway? The runway even looks too narrow for a 747 on google maps but I suppose it landed safely on it.

josip

From what I read, it's "simply" a matter of offloading cargo and surplus fuel, getting a permit to ignore a few regs, while waiting for a suitable headwind.

notharrypotter

There was a program on the discovery channel.
It concerned a B737 which landed on a sea wall embankment.
They took off with just enough fuel to get to an airport about 10 min away.

Most likely same will happen here.

josip

Thye're not going to hang around apparently.
No need to offload cargo. Not a lot of fuel onboard. Favourable weather (winds).

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/21/travel/kansas-cargo-plane-wrong-airport/

Pilot fingers crossed and spare underwear packed.

DieselPowered

An enormous cargo plane, a Boeing 747 Dreamlifter, mistakenly landed late Wednesday at the wrong airport in Wichita and was stuck there overnight.
Atlas Air Flight 4241 originated in New York and was scheduled to land at McConnell Air Force Base in Kansas, but instead landed at the smaller Jabara Airport a few miles away.

The mammoth plane needs 9,199 feet of runway to take off at maximum weight, but the runway length at Jabara is just 6,101 feet.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/passantino/massive-plane-mistakenly-lands-at-a-tiny-kansas-airport-and

r3nu4l

Seriously, how can this happen with all the navigation aids that exist today as well as ATC? It's a serious question. With all the technology that exists surely there should be a warning system when a plane is about to land at the wrong airport?

P_1

Didn't something similar happen a few years ago with a Ryanair 737 mistaking an RAF base for Derry Airport?

Reoil

The airport it landed at doesn't even have a ATC tower!

Cookiemunster

P_1 wrote: »

Didn't something similar happen a few years ago with a Ryanair 737 mistaking an RAF base for Derry Airport?

And last year in Florida a USAF C17 landed at a small local airport rather than the air force base a few miles away.

josip

Maybe we're not looking at this the right way. How about?

"Low on fuel, in the middle of the night, with no assistance from ATC or ground based guidance, 2 brave pilots managed to land a huge, fully loaded cargo aircraft at an airport neither of them had flown to before and which according to the book was too short."
And they made it stick.

urajoke

P_1 wrote: »

Didn't something similar happen a few years ago with a Ryanair 737 mistaking an RAF base for Derry Airport?

No it was an EIRJET A320 covering some flights for Ryanair that did that.

urajoke

Already a topic on this

stoneill

The Kansas Heart Hospital next door probably had a few more patients after that landed.

fingal raven

Many years ago, back in the 60s or early 70s, PanAm landed a B707 in Northolt instead of Heathrow. The pilot just managed to stop it before it ended up on the A40. As I recall they had to remove all the seats and fittings and with minimum fuel ferried it to LHR. After this the gasholders on approach to the 2 airfields had large LH and NH letters painted on them, great navigation aids!.

tricky D

Cookiemunster wrote: »

And last year in Florida a USAF C17 landed at a small local airport rather than the air force base a few miles away.

Mac Dill AFB but went to Peter O'Knight

fingal raven

Of course we did nearly have a DC-9/MD80 on the Ashbourne Rd. after mistaking the lights on a hotel in Ballymun for approach lights.

CaptainSkidmark

The interstate is being closed down at 12.30pm(6.30pm GMT) for 30 minutes.

Live feed: http://www.airlinereporter.com/2013/11/stuck-boeing-747-dreamlifter-lands-at-airport-that-is-too-small/

josip

Will it be possible to watch this live on some news feed?

josip

josip wrote: »

Will it be possible to watch this live on some news feed?

Answering my own questions

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/boeing-747-jumbo-jet-takeoff-live-video-stream-wichita-jabara-airport-to-mcconnell-afb-attempt
http://globalnews.ca/news/981506/boeing-jumbo-jet-lands-at-wrong-kansas-airport/

josip

Main engine ignition...
We have get the fcuk away from the plane...

josip

It ain't goin nowhere with those 2 yellow guys in front of the nosewheel

josip

Lights on...

josip

God speed...

josip

Gone baby gone.

Bsal

On youtube now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5UiAd2c-MM

zone 1

this happend with EIRJET up the north as well couple years back. if i can remember

Preset No.3

Bit of a difference between an A320 and a 747.

sully2010

Well she made it out of there anyway!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101218552

CaptainSkidmark

seen it live, took off relatively quickly!

Comhrá

Here's an interesting clip of an SAA B747 SP making it's final landing on a very short, narrow runway somewhere in SA, I think, where it's to be it's resting place so to speak.

Video: Final South African Airways Boeing 747SP captured landing at Rand airport on 15m wide runway

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By: Justin Wastnage London
05:38 1 Nov 2006
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A South African general aviation pilot has posted a full video of the final landing of one of two remaining South African Airways (SAA) Boeing 747SPs at Rand Germiston airport outside Johannesburg on his website (below).

Rudi Greyling starts the film piloting his own Aerotrike Scout, one of three microlights allowed to land at Rand immediately before the 747SP touched down.

The videoclip shows the 747SP in SAA colours performing two easterly precautionary approaches on the short, narrow strip before making its final approach and landing on 30 September. The aircraft (ZS-SPC, christened "Maluti") flew from Johannesburg's OR Tambo international airport where it has sat awaiting permission to fly for three years to Rand, where the country's aviation museum is housed.

The aircraft, piloted by Capt Dennis Spence, landed on runway 11 at the airport. The runway is only 1,463m (4,830ft) long and 15m wide. The 747SP's track bogie centres is 11m. The airport is at around 5,000ft altitude, for which Boeing manuals recommend a minimum field length of 1,800m. However, the aircraft was light on fuel. The aircraft can not leave Rand airport, however, as minimum take-off distances range from 2,940m on normal days to 3,570m during the hot African days of summer.

Wind conditions were 350 at 8kt (15km/h) on the day, favouring cross runway 17, but which has electricity pylons on its approach path.

The elder sister of ZS-SPC, ZS-SAN Lebombo, is already retired at Rand. SAA donated this 747SP to the SAA museum society.

FWVT

It made it out ok today.

http://www.kwch.com/news/local-news/boeing-dreamlifter-lands-at-jabara/-/21054266/23081256/-/oma90hz/-/index.html