English setter pup help

springer man

Just bought my first English setter , was wondering has anybody got any tips for me.

TriggerPL

springer man wrote: »

Just bought my first English setter , was wondering has anybody got any tips for me.

Not having a go but why do people buy pups with out research first .

Anyway what age is this pup ?

fitzy_fitzy

Well Springer Man, all you need to do for the early stages is to socialise the pup get him interacted with as many people and other dogs as you can.
Start to bond with him yourself.
His confidenece will begin to grow.
After a couple of months you could start introducing him to bit of game, maybe in feb, march.
Very little you can do until he starts hunting this could happen at 6 months, it could take 12 months.
If you want him retrieving, you could introduce a tennis ball now.
All you need do with setter is To train them on the stop whistle and return whistle.
Always work them into the wind, make sure they are working with head up, not nose down.
This can be done by working them on heather.
Dont ever shoot a bird over him unless he sets it.
I have a few books on pointer and setters that you can borrow.
PM me for details.
Bond loads with him and no harm let him know who the boss is everynow and again.
Best of luck.
Alot more on here that know more than me

charlie10

great advice fitzy and fair play to offering the books fair play:)

springer man

fitzy_fitzy wrote: »

Well Springer Man, all you need to do for the early stages is to socialise the pup get him interacted with as many people and other dogs as you can.
Start to bond with him yourself.
His confidenece will begin to grow.
After a couple of months you could start introducing him to bit of game, maybe in feb, march.
Very little you can do until he starts hunting this could happen at 6 months, it could take 12 months.
If you want him retrieving, you could introduce a tennis ball now.
All you need do with setter is To train them on the stop whistle and return whistle.
Always work them into the wind, make sure they are working with head up, not nose down.
This can be done by working them on heather.
Dont ever shoot a bird over him unless he sets it.
I have a few books on pointer and setters that you can borrow.
PM me for details.
Bond loads with him and no harm let him know who the boss is everynow and again.
Best of luck.
Alot more on here that know more than me

Cheers Fitzy ! Pity a few more aren't as helpful as yourself , Ive plenty research done I was just looking for any little tips for

springer man

TriggerPL wrote: »

Not having a go but why do people buy pups with out research first .

Anyway what age is this pup ?

Ive plenty research done and ive trained 2 springers already to a high standard! This is my first setter and I was just wondering what to look out for with an English Setter

deeksofdoom

TriggerPL wrote: »

Not having a go but why do people buy pups with out research first .

Anyway what age is this pup ?

Don't mind Trigger he's a very angry man.
:mad::mad::mad:

TriggerPL

springer man wrote: »

Ive plenty research done and ive trained 2 springers already to a high standard! This is my first setter and I was just wondering what to look out for with an English Setter

What the **** ? I ask what age ?

Cause there no point giving advice on one thing if the pup is 10 months old ,

I've never refused to help / give advice when it comes to dogs .

If you have done ur research u will know, there not like pointer ,

U have to be gently with them really bond with them and the main thing is getting them to return to the whistle .

Above anything else they will hunt naturally , u need to have them bang on the whistle or they will break ur heart .

Bring them to football pitches and give them all the room to run with no scent every 5 or so min call him up , lots of praise .

Don't use a Feild with distractions .

Bond with the dog same as you would a springer . .

Then when ur sure she good on the whistle you can introduce game , and big open fields .

Remember there no springer a and don't be afraid to let them out 50-100 yards from you roaming. !

TriggerPL

deeksofdoom wrote: »

Don't mind Trigger he's a very angry man.
:mad::mad::mad:

Haha ! Think it was advice on setter he was looking for not advice on me !!

Wind and Wave

Very relevant points made by fitzy. I have had a number of setters and one rule of thumb I always use never to run them with springers. Secondly get to know someone with a good setter so yours can start backing them up.

blackpearl

don't be afraid to let him hunt with springers a few times at the start he will follow them into cover it is very important to get him use to cover at a early age their is no equal to a setter or pointer that hunts cover the open ground work will come naturally in a year or to you will notice a big improvement in the number of pheasants in your bag.

springer man

TriggerPL wrote: »

What the **** ? I ask what age ?

Cause there no point giving advice on one thing if the pup is 10 months old ,

I've never refused to help / give advice when it comes to dogs .

If you have done ur research u will know, there not like pointer ,

U have to be gently with them really bond with them and the main thing is getting them to return to the whistle .

Above anything else they will hunt naturally , u need to have them bang on the whistle or they will break ur heart .

Bring them to football pitches and give them all the room to run with no scent every 5 or so min call him up , lots of praise .

Don't use a Feild with distractions .

Bond with the dog same as you would a springer . .

Then when ur sure she good on the whistle you can introduce game , and big open fields .

Remember there no springer a and don't be afraid to let them out 50-100 yards from you roaming. !

Cheers for the help , one thing im not too sure is the setting , how natural will it come to them and what work do I need to do

TriggerPL

springer man wrote: »

Cheers for the help , one thing im not too sure is the setting , how natural will it come to them and what work do I need to do

It will come naturally but if you want to help it along at an early stage , e pointer does a gud video for pointers with a fishing rod , will carry across . Il see can I dig it out !

jap gt

springer man wrote: »

Cheers for the help , one thing im not too sure is the setting , how natural will it come to them and what work do I need to do

all i did with my red setter was basic control on whistle etc until she was 8-9 months then started taking her to where i knew id meet birds, after that it came naturally she was pointing at 12months but didnt get her major drive to hunt until 2 years old, setters can be slow to mature but once she was pointing i started working on getting her to turn on whistle ranging out etc

shes 3 now and this season has really seen her come into her own, really learning to work with the breeze etc its a pleasure to shoot over her

TriggerPL

http://youtu.be/5_GvZpN6Bbw

Hear ya go bud , and as previous post pointed out it could take 2 seasons to really see her shine . The more birds ya get her on the better for her ,

From about 9 months , also be slow about introduction to shot , setter are timid at times and it a slow process ,

TriggerPL

http://youtu.be/5_GvZpN6Bbw

Hear ya go bud , and as previous post pointed out it could take 2 seasons to really see her shine . The more birds ya get her on the better for her ,

From about 9 months , also be slow about introduction to shot , setter are timid at times and it a slow process ,

dodderangler

Best of luck with her mate. Any specific game you'll use it for??
Setters are great for bogland grouse and rough ground

springer man

dodderangler wrote: »

Best of luck with her mate. Any specific game you'll use it for??
Setters are great for bogland grouse and rough ground

Particulary pheasant and woodcock , I live quite close to a bog so plenty ground for himself

jap gt

springer man wrote: »

Particulary pheasant and woodcock , I live quite close to a bog so plenty ground for himself

Stick up a picture if you can