Could this work

After reading the man up thread I looked at what cultural ideas it could be based on and I came across this organisation and their campaign it is based in the US and its called...Men Can Stop Rape, creating cultures free from violence.

This is from there Bystander Intervention page I am curious to see if anyone thinks this might actual work.






Alan Berkowitz asserts in his research that 80% of college age men are uncomfortable when women are belittled or mistreated. They do not express their discomfort because they believe they are the only ones who are uncomfortable. Bystander intervention better equips men to express their discomfort. This strategy provides community members with the awareness, skills, and ability to challenge social norms in their community that support sexual assault. It is a tactic that meshes well with the social ecological model because bystander goals and outcomes can be developed and supported at the different levels.

MCSR uses the following six step schema in its bystander training, “Gut Check,” to better prepare men to intervene:
STEP ONE: Notice Events. Social norms often reinforce the normality of sexism and sexual assault so that they escape notice. Therefore, the first step is to notice when someone is crossing a line.
STEP TWO: Identify Events as Problems. If we understand the potential impact that a sexual assault can have on a survivor and the survivor’s friends, family, and co-workers, we will see someone crossing the line as a problem requiring action.
STEP THREE: Feel Motivated to and Capable of Finding a Solution. Many times men feel stuck in situations where they might intervene. Providing them with frameworks like primary prevention, dominant/counter stories of masculinity, and bystander intervention can motivate them to become unstuck.
STEP FOUR: Acquire Skills for Action. This key step underlines the necessity in helping men to develop strategies leading to effective action. MCSR works with men to develop an intervention toolkit.
STEP FIVE: Act. The first four steps are very important, but they only have an effect if an emphasis is placed on action. Men need to remember and use the strategies in the toolkit.
STEP SIX: Evaluate and Revise. After having intervened, men should consider what worked well, what did not, and what they might do differently the next time an opportunity arises.

danniemcq

Can the same be applied to women?

you know when guys are belittled and mocked in work, public, tv ads, ad campaigns, tv shows, cartoons, movies, books etc. You get the picture.

equality issues shouldn't be aimed at one gender it should be applied to both as both suffer from it

pickarooney

I can't make head or tail of what they're trying to say with their frameworks and their toolkits and whatnot but I can only imagine how tediously disingenuous this thread is going to be.

aidoh

I doubt it if most young men need formal training in how to stop sexual violence if they happen upon it.
I'm sure the vast majority of us would intervene if we came across something bad happening.

No Pants

mariaalice wrote: »

MCSR works with men to develop an intervention toolkit.

Are we going to get Ninja training or weapons?

danniemcq

danniemcq wrote: »

Can the same be applied to women?

you know when guys are belittled and mocked in work, public, tv ads, ad campaigns, tv shows, cartoons, movies, books etc. You get the picture.

equality issues shouldn't be aimed at one gender it should be applied to both as both suffer from it

While all that may be true what I am wondering is does bystander intervention work in any situation where you don't know the people involved, what about male on male violence would you step in to stop someone say, being kicked in the head.

To me this comes from the school of social science theory called "the Sounds plausible but don't really work in real life"

alchemist33

There must be something wrong with me . I've never been in a social situation where sexual assault was considered normal or acceptable.

danniemcq

mariaalice wrote: »

While all that may be true what I am wondering is does bystander intervention work in any situation where you don't know the people involved, what about male on male violence would you step in to stop someone say, being kicked in the head.

To me this comes from the school of social science theory called "the Sounds plausible but don't really work in real life"

yes, have done and would do again. And yes I've ended up with a fair few knocks over the years from it but if i didn't intervene then i would beat myself up worse after.

poundapunnet

danniemcq wrote: »

Can the same be applied to women?

you know when guys are belittled and mocked in work, public, tv ads, ad campaigns, tv shows, cartoons, movies, books etc. You get the picture.

equality issues shouldn't be aimed at one gender it should be applied to both as both suffer from it

It definitely should be applied to women too, in advertising especially men are routinely mocked, I'd guess that in thirty years we'll be looking at those ads the same way as we look at things like this now. All the same I'd be careful about comparing sexual violence to sexist advertising

aidoh wrote: »

I doubt it if most young men need formal training in how to stop sexual violence if they happen upon it.
I'm sure the vast majority of us would intervene if we came across something bad happening.

Again, agreed, but areas where I think men maybe could be encouraged or facilitated to step in is in low-level harassment (cat-calls on the street, groping in pubs/clubs) or around the consent/intoxication thing. Something like "Friends don't let friends take girls who can't stand up home" would be nice to see. Not that it's purely men's responsibility of course, and not that women shouldn't be equally held accountable for harassment of men, but on occasions where I've intervened in situations like that I've been called a lot of things men couldn't be called for doing the same thing "Nosy cock-blocking lesbian bitch" springs to mind :pac: