HGV Blind Spot Video.

ibebanging

http://youtu.be/wzL0Kyk4m-8

RunRoryRun

Wow

07Lapierre

Have truck Manufacturers never heard of these??
Why aren't all trucks fitted with them? (for side view and rear view)

Rovi

The point-of-view of the camera is at about the height of the top of the steering wheel, which is NOT the driver's-eye-view of any truck driver I've ever seen.

Move the camera up to eye level, and I'd say the view in the mirror would be very different.

That said, the lower wide-angle mirror appears to be poorly set too; there's MORE of the truck cab showing in that than there is in the upper mirror, where it SHOULD be angled to show as much of the road below and to the side of the truck as possible, with just a sliver of the cab showing on the edge to give the driver a point of reference.

Paul Kiernan

This is more scary. I blame the on-road cycle lanes - they encourage, possibly even convince, inexperienced cyclists to cycle along the inside of HGV's and other vehicles.

07Lapierre

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

This is more scary. I blame the on-road cycle lanes - they encourage, possibly even convince, inexperienced cyclists to cycle along the inside of HGV's and other vehicles.

A bit of common sense on the part of cyclist's would help also.

lennymc

i hate being near trucks when im using the road (car, bike, bicycle or pedestrian)

slideshow bob

RSA did a video with HGVs and cyclists couple of years ago. Discussed on boards a while back but hte links in that page are now broken on the RSA site. The video is at:
http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Education/Road-safety-tips/HGV-drivers-and-cyclists1/

Bit long really, but plenty of people would benefit from watching it.

Sadly four cyclists killed in London by HGVs last week. Women have been and continue to be particularly at risk from HGVs. The police in London are trying to help, echoing the RSA video above.

donkey balls

07Lapierre wrote: »

Have truck Manufacturers never heard of these??
Why aren't all trucks fitted with them? (for side view and rear view)

I have used vehicles that have fixed cameras fitted to the rear,While some of these cameras don't turn on until the vehicle is in reverse,There are others that stay on regardless if the truck is stationary or moving.
The likes of Dub bus have cameras front and rear of the bus along with other bus operators,While these cameras can be fitted to ridgid trucks the problem can be when you move on to artic trucks & trailers,As not every truck would use the same trailer everyday and then you have unaccompanied trailers that would arrive by the Ports around Ireland.
As for the video posted in the UK with the cyclist having to get out of the way of the truck turning left,If they had off stopped along with the car then this would not have happened,Now if this was an artic truck the outcome would not be good.
As I mentioned in another topic on cyclists v hgv/car drivers there is only so much a driver can do regarding blind spots,Take someone regardless if they are cycling or in a car etc if you cannot see the truck/bus drivers mirrors they cannot see you.
Some years ago I received an e mail from the RSA regarding the retro fitting of extra mirrors for trucks that were built pre 2006 I think,At present all trucks have 6 mirrors which gives the driver good vision if the mirrors are clean and set to the drivers seating posture.
Now if the truck is turning left this is where the majority of blind spots are on large vehicle,I am sure if there was any other form of mirror that could eliminate this the manufacturers would have fitted them by now.
A cyclist or motor cyclist should NEVER EVER go up the inside of any large vehicle that is turning left,And having drove artic trucks around every city in the country normally if a cyclist was coming up the inside of me I would slow down and let the cyclist pass if I was turning left up ahead.
Education is the key for everyone that uses the roads what is the point in blaming each other,There is always going be dangerous cyclists, bus/truck drivers & car drivers these are the ones who need to be educated.

eeeee

donkey balls wrote: »

I have used vehicles that have fixed cameras fitted to the rear,While some of these cameras don't turn on until the vehicle is in reverse,There are others that stay on regardless if the truck is stationary or moving.
The likes of Dub bus have cameras front and rear of the bus along with other bus operators,While these cameras can be fitted to ridgid trucks the problem can be when you move on to artic trucks & trailers,As not every truck would use the same trailer everyday and then you have unaccompanied trailers that would arrive by the Ports around Ireland.
As for the video posted in the UK with the cyclist having to get out of the way of the truck turning left,If they had off stopped along with the car then this would not have happened,Now if this was an artic truck the outcome would not be good.
As I mentioned in another topic on cyclists v hgv/car drivers there is only so much a driver can do regarding blind spots,Take someone regardless if they are cycling or in a car etc if you cannot see the truck/bus drivers mirrors they cannot see you.
Some years ago I received an e mail from the RSA regarding the retro fitting of extra mirrors for trucks that were built pre 2006 I think,At present all trucks have 6 mirrors which gives the driver good vision if the mirrors are clean and set to the drivers seating posture.
Now if the truck is turning left this is where the majority of blind spots are on large vehicle,I am sure if there was any other form of mirror that could eliminate this the manufacturers would have fitted them by now.
A cyclist or motor cyclist should NEVER EVER go up the inside of any large vehicle that is turning left,And having drove artic trucks around every city in the country normally if a cyclist was coming up the inside of me I would slow down and let the cyclist pass if I was turning left up ahead.
Education is the key for everyone that uses the roads what is the point in blaming each other,There is always going be dangerous cyclists, bus/truck drivers & car drivers these are the ones who need to be educated.

Absolutely dead right. I would love to see the anti-HGV crown actually spend time in one, not even driving it even in a city.

As you say there are dangerous drivers of every vehicle just as there are dangerous cyclists. Whether those ones are are reachable or not is debatable.

HGV's are not the enemy, I do think it is a lack of understanding on both sides to a certain degree, but I would wager cyclists are perhaps less aware of HGV blind spots than the other way round if that makes sense? Education is the only answer. As I said on the other thread, even getting cyclists to sit in a lorry in town like they did a few years ago opens up a few eye to just what the drivers can and can't see.

07Lapierre

donkey balls wrote: »

I have used vehicles that have fixed cameras fitted to the rear,While some of these cameras don't turn on until the vehicle is in reverse,There are others that stay on regardless if the truck is stationary or moving.
The likes of Dub bus have cameras front and rear of the bus along with other bus operators,While these cameras can be fitted to ridgid trucks the problem can be when you move on to artic trucks & trailers,As not every truck would use the same trailer everyday and then you have unaccompanied trailers that would arrive by the Ports around Ireland.
As for the video posted in the UK with the cyclist having to get out of the way of the truck turning left,If they had off stopped along with the car then this would not have happened,Now if this was an artic truck the outcome would not be good.
As I mentioned in another topic on cyclists v hgv/car drivers there is only so much a driver can do regarding blind spots,Take someone regardless if they are cycling or in a car etc if you cannot see the truck/bus drivers mirrors they cannot see you.
Some years ago I received an e mail from the RSA regarding the retro fitting of extra mirrors for trucks that were built pre 2006 I think,At present all trucks have 6 mirrors which gives the driver good vision if the mirrors are clean and set to the drivers seating posture.
Now if the truck is turning left this is where the majority of blind spots are on large vehicle,I am sure if there was any other form of mirror that could eliminate this the manufacturers would have fitted them by now.
A cyclist or motor cyclist should NEVER EVER go up the inside of any large vehicle that is turning left,And having drove artic trucks around every city in the country normally if a cyclist was coming up the inside of me I would slow down and let the cyclist pass if I was turning left up ahead.
Education is the key for everyone that uses the roads what is the point in blaming each other,There is always going be dangerous cyclists, bus/truck drivers & car drivers these are the ones who need to be educated.

I agree, but i also feel a camera mounted on the passenger side Mirror on every tractor unit would greatly improve the drivers view of the "Blind Spot". It won't make stupid cyclists more intelligent!

SilverLiningOK

slideshow bob wrote: »

RSA did a video with HGVs and cyclists couple of years ago. Discussed on boards a while back but hte links in that page are now broken on the RSA site. The video is at:
http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Education/Road-safety-tips/HGV-drivers-and-cyclists1/

Bit long really, but plenty of people would benefit from watching it.

This video being so short, gets the message across without all the talk. A picture speaks a thousand words is demonstrated. As many as possible need to see it, pedestrians, cyclists, motorists, bus drivers, truck drivers.....

jinkypolly

donkey balls wrote: »

Now if the truck is turning left this is where the majority of blind spots are on large vehicle,I am sure if there was any other form of mirror that could eliminate this the manufacturers would have fitted them by now.

I'm pretty sure it could be done easily enough, similar to adaptive headlights that move in a turn you could have the left mirror rotate out as the truck turns left.

donkey balls

jinkypolly wrote: »

I'm pretty sure it could be done easily enough, similar to adaptive headlights that move in a turn you could have the left mirror rotate out as the truck turns left.

Possibly again I am sure the manufacturer would have looked at these options,Another thing that I forgot to mention in the other post is that tipper/dump trucks have two steering axels like the one in the link Slideshow bob posted.
http://totalwomenscycling.com/commuting/the-exchanging-places-program-hgv-awareness-for-cyclists-16315/

John_Rambo

I'm not sure how to embed, but have a gander. Scary stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ8iRVBpz2E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Beasty

John_Rambo wrote: »

I'm not sure how to embed, but have a gander. Scary stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ8iRVBpz2E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I've moved this into the earlier thread as at least this link still works