additive to calm stressed animal

Phil Iam

I remember seeing in a bull sale catalogue or some where that there is a powder you can add to their feed to help calm them down if they very stressed,
I have a group of cattle that go wild when I try to move them and I'm wondering if something like this powder might help!

bob charles

magnesium crystals

Phil Iam

bob charles wrote: »

magnesium crystals

where would I get some?

bob charles

Phil Iam wrote: »

where would I get some?

I got it at an agri merchants, 25kg bag.

simx

Phil Iam wrote: »

I remember seeing in a bull sale catalogue or some where that there is a powder you can add to their feed to help calm them down if they very stressed,
I have a group of cattle that go wild when I try to move them and I'm wondering if something like this powder might help!

Must be marting time

td5man

bob charles wrote: »

magnesium crystals

Would they be suitable for human consumption?

bob charles

td5man wrote: »

Would they be suitable for human consumption?

yes, they are lovely in home made kids ice-pops

munkus

Should be banned for agricultural use. How many lunatic cattle were bought off the back of them being doped up with this stuff.

moy83

Isnt there stuff in a tube that you can squeeze into them aswell ? Or was it a home made concoction I saw a lad use one day . A bullock jumped out of the crush 3 times on him and the fourth go he got it back his mouth , by the time we got him to the mart it was all he could do to walk down the ramp ! Im sure regular buyers would spot something up with animals like these in the ring though

bob charles

munkus wrote: »

Should be banned for agricultural use. How many lunatic cattle were bought off the back of them being doped up with this stuff.

very very little I would think

MfMan

Phil Iam wrote: »

I remember seeing in a bull sale catalogue or some where that there is a powder you can add to their feed to help calm them down if they very stressed,
I have a group of cattle that go wild when I try to move them and I'm wondering if something like this powder might help!

<modsnip> that they give for children they say...

Dont be daft

munkus wrote: »

Should be banned for agricultural use. How many lunatic cattle were bought off the back of them being doped up with this stuff.

Can almost say for certain its happened to us before. Can't be coincidence that a bull is grand and calm in a mart with cattle balling and people roaring and the next day he's flying around our yard with his head in the air.

Bought a lad recently that was definitely on heavy painkillers in the mart. No limping in the ring but next day he was lame.
Could see he'd been injected in the neck (badly) recently and when I handled him I noticed a slight difference in muscle mass which would say to me that he hadn't been walking properly on one side.

Father saw a weanling in a mart a while ago and he was starting to look off. He found the farmer and said to him that he might have IBR and to get him home and a vet out. Farmer didn't give a rats and by the time the animal went into the ring he was blowing badly. I'd say myself the farmer was just hoping he'd get through the ring.

So IMO lads definitely pull fast ones with cattle before the mart.

mikeoh

magnesium crystals= Epsom salt.......... an old west of Ireland trick is to give them carrigeen moss ( seaweed) but they go mad after when they aren't getting it..

jersey101

Would them magnesium crystals show up in the milk if you gave it to a heifer that's hard to settle in a parlour? My mother and father use magnesium crystals in the bath, it keeps there bones and joints more mobile

Bizzum

jersey101 wrote: »

My mother and father use magnesium crystals in the bath, it keeps there bones and joints more mobile

It must be good stuff. Takes a bit of manoeuvreing to fit two people in a bath.

jersey101

Bizzum wrote: »

It must be good stuff. Takes a bit of manoeuvreing to fit two people in a bath.

jacuzzi

delaval

jersey101 wrote: »

Would them magnesium crystals show up in the milk if you gave it to a heifer that's hard to settle in a parlour? My mother and father use magnesium crystals in the bath, it keeps there bones and joints more mobile

Great to hear they're still active!!!!

jersey101

delaval wrote: »

Great to hear they're still active!!!!

active at what now? I never said they were active at anything

freedominacup

jersey101 wrote: »

active at what now? I never said they were active at anything

Yer like all kids can't even conceive of the the oul pair bumping uglies. I can see my own older kids starting to go into denial at the mere suggestion we might be at it:D:D. It's becoming a good source of a wind up for them;).

jersey101

freedominacup wrote: »

Yer like all kids can't even conceive of the the oul pair bumping uglies. I can see my own older kids starting to go into denial at the mere suggestion we might be at it:D:D. It's becoming a good source of a wind up for them;).

ah here i dont want to be thinking of that when im havin my cup of tea and a scone

freedominacup

jersey101 wrote: »

ah here i dont want to be thinking of that when im havin my cup of tea and a scone

If it's stressing ya you can always throw a spoon of the epsom salts into the tae.

bob charles

freedominacup wrote: »

Yer like all kids can't even conceive of the the oul pair bumping uglies. I can see my own older kids starting to go into denial at the mere suggestion we might be at it:D:D. It's becoming a good source of a wind up for them;).

A good shot of WD40 the day before im told, is how you auld fellows get your nuts moving

hugo29

bob charles wrote: »

A good shot of WD40 the day before im told, is how you auld fellows get your nuts moving

and id say, you young fellas, spend more time talking about getting your nuts moving, than actually moving them

freedominacup

bob charles wrote: »

A good shot of WD40 the day before im told, is how you auld fellows get your nuts moving

The only difference between sex at 18 and 80 is that what once you used to do all night now takes you all night to do;).

greysides

This thread certainly went off on a tangent.......

screcrow

greysides wrote: »

This thread certainly went off on a tangent.......

not really rohypnol for cattle

hugo29

freedominacup wrote: »

The only difference between sex at 18 and 80 is that what once you used to do all night now takes you all night to do;).

What's it like at 40

freedominacup

hugo29 wrote: »

What's it like at 40

Not whole lot different to 39;)

hugo29

freedominacup wrote: »

Not whole lot different to 39;)

, frequent so :rolleyes:

Mac Taylor

One of the lads at work was of the opinion that all you had to do if you were married was roll over whenever you want'ed sex, anyway he eventually got married and after a few months he was asked how he was getting on, oh I rolled over last night and......I fell out of bed!!

Rovi

Just to drag this back somewhat On Topic for a moment:

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Some very silly stuff has been snipped above.

One very serious snip has been the removal of the suggestion of a product that is only available POM (Prescription Only Medicine), is NOT licensed for use in cattle, and is specifically labelled as ONLY for use in animals "not being intended for human consumption."


Edited to add:
It has been explained to me that the poster who posted about the product referenced above, used it under veterinary supervision some years ago.
That's fine and it was undoubtedly all above board at the time, but as far as I can see and have been told, the product currently has no approval or licencing for use in cattle as stated above.
As such, it's probably best to leave deleted the discussion of it in these circumstances (stressed cattle).

That was the 'serious' snip.
The 'silly' snip mentioned above was some other stuff that was heading off into the realm of the bizarre.

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