Working for Oracle?

theballz

Hi,

I have been offered a business development role in Oracle,
I currently work in smaller firm and am getting great sales experience e.g. going to sales meetings, closing deals etc..

But oracle have offered me a role with much better basic salary, benefits and easily achievable targets (my place the targets are very high and not realistic.)

I am not sure whether to take the job or not, I am getting good experience here but feel like I can not go any higher then I am.
Oracle seem to have a great career progression path and are offering a much better package.

Has anyone ever worked for them? Are they good to work for?

Mr. Loverman

I worked for them a long time ago. Maybe around 2001. So they may be different now.

They were a HORRIBLE company to work for. A culture of bullying and nastiness. It was such a shame because they had so much money, success and dominance it was completely unnecessary.

I worked in their IT section rather than their business development section.

theballz

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I worked for them a long time ago. Maybe around 2001. So they may be different now.

They were a HORRIBLE company to work for. A culture of bullying and nastiness. It was such a shame because they had so much money, success and dominance it was completely unnecessary.

I worked in their IT section rather than their business development section.

Really? Wow.

I've two friends who work there and have nothing but good things to say.

But I made this thread to get other opinions and thank you for yours.

Marionne

To be honest, I am considering also taking a job with Oracle due to the very good feedback I got from my ex-colleagues who already moved to their Sales team. Probably they're very different from 2001.
For me It also involves relocating to Dublin which is quite a big change. However, one of my friends got a good relocation package which I hope I will also get when I am in process.

theballz

Marionne wrote: »

To be honest, I am considering also taking a job with Oracle due to the very good feedback I got from my ex-colleagues who already moved to their Sales team. Probably they're very different from 2001.
For me It also involves relocating to Dublin which is quite a big change. However, one of my friends got a good relocation package which I hope I will also get when I am in process.

This is a major reason I will probably take the job, the relocation package they offer is absolutely fantastic.

Considering how difficult it is to move to the US in general, working for Oracle would certainly help getting a foot in.

The benefits package is also brilliant.

minotour

IT Sales in Dublin, eventually all roads lead to Oracle. Which is ironic because they are based in East Point, one of the most difficult areas of the city to get to and from. New Dublin bike stations in the area will help with that though.

theballz

minotour wrote: »

IT Sales in Dublin, eventually all roads lead to Oracle. Which is ironic because they are based in East Point, one of the most difficult areas of the city to get to and from. New Dublin bike stations in the area will help with that though.

The location is a the biggest issue for me, considering the standard working hours are 9-5.30pm, I am supposed to be in college in Tallaght at 6pm.

It would be virtually impossible to make it.

Friend of mine who works there (and he is not the one who referred me ) did explain to me that the managers can be quite helpful in such instances and let you work 8am-4.30pm if suits better.

I don't want to bank on that though, I'd happily use the port tunnel 3 times a week for college, but still don't think i'd make it.

minotour

theballz wrote: »

The location is a the biggest issue for me, considering the standard working hours are 9-5.30pm, I am supposed to be in college in Tallaght at 6pm.

It would be virtually impossible to make it.

Friend of mine who works there (and he is not the one who referred me ) did explain to me that the managers can be quite helpful in such instances and let you work 8am-4.30pm if suits better.

I don't want to bank on that though, I'd happily use the port tunnel 3 times a week for college, but still don't think i'd make it.

Ah yeah flexitime is fairly standard in the city especially when you can make a case for it. The access problems there are woeful though. Sounds like you plan to drive, in which case you need to plan ahead everyday. If theres a gig in the point then you can forget it, the whole area locks up. Best bet on those days is to use the shuttle bus and redline luas but i would still leave a good hour and half buffer to get to tallaght....at least.

theballz

minotour wrote: »

Ah yeah flexitime is fairly standard in the city especially when you can make a case for it. The access problems there are woeful though. Sounds like you plan to drive, in which case you need to plan ahead everyday. If theres a gig in the point then you can forget it, the whole area locks up. Best bet on those days is to use the shuttle bus and redline luas but i would still leave a good hour and half buffer to get to tallaght....at least.

Yeah, I've heard it's alright. If flexitime is available I will defiantly take it,
the crappy location is a pain all the same.

College days if I finished at 4.30pm I'd still take to the port tunnel,
any other days myself and my two friends who already work there can take turns driving.

minotour

Perhaps graciously would be a better approach but then i know what you meant!

dealhunter1985

I would stay well clear.
I took on the same position with them a few years back and absolutely hated it. Its pure cold calling and nothing but. They make it sound fancy..'business development consultant'

Fact is, you will spend the whole day using their crappy out of date leads getting through to people who dont want to talk to you in the first place and who dont have the decision making ability.
The role of the BDC is to qualify leads which are then relayed onto the actual sales guys to compete the sale. But its a bit of a joke in that in order for a lead to be 'qualified', you must fulfill a load of criteria such as budget, dmu, timeframe etc etc..
its extremely tough to get all those details.. And your commission is based on the number of leads you qualify

theballz

dealhunter1985 wrote: »

I would stay well clear.
I took on the same position with them a few years back and absolutely hated it. Its pure cold calling and nothing but. They make it sound fancy..'business development consultant'

I don't see anything misleading in the job title,
I work as a 'business development consultant' in a small cloud company,
Business development is cold calling and is usually a apprenticeship type position for people looking to get into sales.

You should of known that before taking the job.

dealhunter1985 wrote: »

The role of the BDC is to qualify leads which are then relayed onto the actual sales guys to compete the sale. But its a bit of a joke in that in order for a lead to be 'qualified', you must fulfill a load of criteria such as budget, dmu, timeframe etc etc..
its extremely tough to get all those details.. And your commission is based on the number of leads you qualify

Sounds fairly standard mate, it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

How long where you in the position, did you meet your targets?

dealhunter1985

Appears you already made up your mind.
Best of luck with it

theballz wrote: »

I don't see anything misleading in the job title,
I work as a 'business development consultant' in a small cloud company,
Business development is cold calling and is usually a apprenticeship type position for people looking to get into sales.

You should of known that before taking the job.



Sounds fairly standard mate, it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

How long where you in the position, did you meet your targets?

theballz

Took the job, now 5 months in - things are going great and I'm amazed at the negative feedback.

Good basic, great compensation plan, amazing benefits and 30 days training? I'm very happy at the decision I made.

The training I received (and continue to receive) is excellent and the career development program is exciting also.

I'd advice anyone with an interest in sales to try and get in here.

pauliebdub

I worked there years ago, but not in sales. Its pretty fast paced with long hours but i learned an awful lot and advanced my career.