new steroid test shows up hundreds of positives

tomdempsey200

http://www.abc27.com/story/23997085/exclusive-news-from-ard-german-tv-news-programme-new-methods-for-detecting-anabolic-steroids-lead-to-hundreds-of-positive-doping-tests

I wonder how many doping bans will result

not many I think

average_runner

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

http://www.abc27.com/story/23997085/exclusive-news-from-ard-german-tv-news-programme-new-methods-for-detecting-anabolic-steroids-lead-to-hundreds-of-positive-doping-tests

I wonder how many doping bans will result

not many I think

After reading the book "The Dirtiest Race in History", I doubt many bans will be issued.

I think they be better to just have a free for all and lets run.

Whats the difference between new high tech gear to make you go faster and drugs some may ask.

ultrapercy

average_runner wrote: »

After reading the book "The Dirtiest Race in History", I doubt many bans will be issued.

I think they be better to just have a free for all and lets run.

Whats the difference between new high tech gear to make you go faster and drugs some may ask.

Its highly unlikely someone will drop dead at 38 from the misuse of hightech gear, although,no doubt, it has happened. There is no such thing as a free for all in relation to performance enhancing drugs, what happens at the very top level of any sport trickles down to the lowest level and influences children and juniors. At any rate the fight of good versus evil should always be fought, giving up when the going is tough is not an option.

average_runner

ultrapercy wrote: »

Its highly unlikely someone will drop dead at 38 from the misuse of hightech gear, although,no doubt, it has happened. There is no such thing as a free for all in relation to performance enhancing drugs, what happens at the very top level of any sport trickles down to the lowest level and influences children and juniors. At any rate the fight of good versus evil should always be fought, giving up when the going is tough is not an option.

Its not call giving up, but its more dangerous to have people taking drugs behind a curtain than in the open. I know i would prefer to know what my kid was doing than having to do it behind my back.

tomdempsey200

they have this test with new detection window

hundreds of positives showing on tests

thousands of samples available for testing

I bet there'll be a handful banned as usual

ultrapercy

average_runner wrote: »

Its not call giving up, but its more dangerous to have people taking drugs behind a curtain than in the open. I know i would prefer to know what my kid was doing than having to do it behind my back.

I presume if your son came home one day and declared he was about to shoot some heroin you would try to stop him ? Maybe you would say "thats fine son so long as you do it in front of me or your mother." Anything is possible these days I suppose, especially with kids.

Chivito550

average_runner wrote: »

Its not call giving up, but its more dangerous to have people taking drugs behind a curtain than in the open. I know i would prefer to know what my kid was doing than having to do it behind my back.

tomdempsey200

kids will have to dope to succeed at any level if there's a doping freeforall

average_runner

ultrapercy wrote: »

I presume if your son came home one day and declared he was about to shoot some heroin you would try to stop him ? Maybe you would say "thats fine son so long as you do it in front of me or your mother." Anything is possible these days I suppose, especially with kids.

Yes I would of course tried to stop him. I would try to stop them on all drugs. Lets keep off recreational drugs, just to sports for this topic.


But if your kid is on something for sports which is a common thing these days and suddenly drops to the floor, you damn better know, so you can tell the medics to get the best chance of surviving. It was well known that 16 year old's in sport back in the 90's were on certain stuff, I declined, but my parents wouldn't of had a clue if I had taken it.

So ignoring the issue can be just as dangerous but humans are good at that.

average_runner

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

kids will have to dope to succeed at any level if there's a doping freeforall

Kids are taking stuff for years now. Just look at the size of some 16-18 year olds.

tomdempsey200

average_runner wrote: »

Kids are taking stuff for years now. Just look at the size of some 16-18 year olds.

ya but you wouldn't be able to win a national sprint title here without cheap steroids

without anti-doping

at the moment you can

bajer101

IOC to retest frozen samples using new method

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/ioc-to-retest-frozen-samples-using-new-method-1.1599944

Clum

average_runner wrote: »

After reading the book "The Dirtiest Race in History", I doubt many bans will be issued.

I think they be better to just have a free for all and lets run.

Whats the difference between new high tech gear to make you go faster and drugs some may ask.

In some cases no difference whatsoever. And for that reason not all high tech gear that makes people go faster is allowed in competition.

The IAAF have a ban on technical devices that incorporate springs, wheels or any other element that provides the user with an advantage over another athlete.

Same in other sports. Bikes have to conform to certain UCI technical regulations. Performance enhancing, non-textile swimsuits are banned from FINA competitions.

There are many valid reasons why people objected to Oscar Pretorius from competing in full-abled or full-bodied (whatever way is best to term non-prostetic assisted athletes) races. When Pretorius was beaten by Alan Oliviera (both users of running blades) Pretorius commented that they "are not running in a fair race" refering to the difference in lengths of the blades being used.

Controlling doping in sport is only one of the aspects of keeping a level playing field. Allow doping and you may as well allow technical advances too. But allowing either or both removes the whole basis of man versus man and we move to a machine versus machine scenario.