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3.40 Leicester DUBAI PRINCE

  • 18-11-2013 4:33am
    #1
    SRFC
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    Sad to see him running over hurdles on a monday in leicester.


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  • #2
    byronbay2
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    Strange one, all right. Anyone got any info about why he missed all the flat season this year? Must have cost Godolphin a pretty penny when they bought him.

    Not my kind of bet at all but @ 8/11 you could make a case for backing him today. Presumably Ferguson thinks he's ready to run and if he retains any kind of ability at all he could afford to fall a couple of times and still beat this lot!!











    I realise a horse cannot be remounted after falling - just using the image for emphasis.


  • #3
    shamdrog63
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    Duel Group 3 winner.Somethin wrong with his Pipe??Has he been gelded?


  • #4
    byronbay2
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    shamdrog63 wrote: »
    Duel Group 3 winner.Somethin wrong with his Pipe??Has he been gelded?

    Yeah, has been gelded.


  • #5
    mike65
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    Has been gelded

    Worth taking on with Catching On or Ballygrooby Bertie


  • #6
    FortuneChip
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    Very comfortable win.
    Never looked troubled.
    Didn't get involved at 8/11 though


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  • #7
    prettyboy81
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    An easy an 8/11 winner we will see all week!


  • #8
    RichieLawlor
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    Probably beat trees but that was impressive


  • #9
    byronbay2
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    prettyboy81 wrote: »
    An easy an 8/11 winner we will see all week!

    Freely available at 5/6 on BF in the minutes before the race.

    Only an egg-and-spoon race but that was impressive from DP. Settled well off a slow pace (often a problem for good flat horses who go hurdling), jumped well and quickened easily to win the race in a few strides. Again (like Irving last week), could have won by half-a-furlong if the jockey so wished.

    It's fair to say that this horse could be anything over hurdles - rated 120 on the flat - and must be rated a very exciting prospect, especially as he handles a bit of cut. Never won over further than 9f on the flat so would probably be strictly a 2-miler over hurdles.


  • #10
    Slattsy
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    How did he jump lads?


  • #11
    Johner
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    Slattsy wrote: »
    How did he jump lads?

    Very very well.


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  • #12
    SRFC
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    A serious lay against proper national hunt horses,like most of Fergusons are.


  • #13
    UrbanSea
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    Godolphin really know how to ruin a horse. Not often Weld overhypes one but I remember him being interviewed after he won his maiden I think it was and he really liked the horse and thought he would be a Classic contender.


  • #14
    Harry Angstrom
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    I remember Cezanne winning an Irish Champion Stakes for Godolphin and the fookers ended up selling him on. He finished up his days jumping around gaff tracks like Towcester. They should have given him a happy retirement when it was clear he wasn't the horse he had been. He owed them nothing.


  • #15
    byronbay2
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    SRFC wrote: »
    A serious lay against proper national hunt horses,like most of Fergusons are.

    In fairness, Dubai Prince is different gravy to most of the flat-breds that Ferguson gets - dual Group 3 winner, gelded, not (apparently) on the downgrade/disappointing, form on good and soft.

    Whether he would/will get up the hill at Cheltenham is a moot point at the moment but I would not like to be laying him over 2m at courses like Kempton and Aintree, certainly against fellow novices.

    UrbanSea wrote: »
    Godolphin really know how to ruin a horse. Not often Weld overhypes one but I remember him being interviewed after he won his maiden I think it was and he really liked the horse and thought he would be a Classic contender.

    I don't know what happened (would love to hear the story, could it be anything to do with the Al Zarooni doping scandal?) with regard to DP not running on the flat this year but he won a Group 3 well on his last flat run in Aug 2012, recording the best official rating of his career. There was no reason at that point to think he was ruined and he didn't run like a ruined horse yesterday.

    Obviously, switching from flat to NH raises a question mark and the horse has apparently been hard to train (only ran 7 times in 4 seasons [winning 5], reappeared for his 3yo season in mid-September and didn't run at all this flat season). He was a 5yo this flat season and would be a 6yo next year so the decision was obviously made to switch codes to prolong his career - a veteran on the flat is only a gorsoon in NH terms. It's certainly an unusual progression but I would regard him as, without doubt, the most exciting novice hurdler seen this year - could be the new Alderbrook!


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