Next Mercedes C-Class - this is it!

Moses7

This is the new C-Class caught at a photo shooting ahead of its debut next year.

Looks like a mini S-Class. Like the front, but not a big fan of the tail lights.




more pictures here.

lomb

Mercedes look like they have lost the plot would you give 40k for that? The current one is lovely.

AugustusMinimus

Looks like nothing more than a facelift to me.

Front of the new one seems to have been lifted off of the E-Class facelift of late. Front is much nicer looking than the previous car.

Not gone on the back of the new one.

ofcork

Its defo got an e class front and an s class rear,think it looks good though.

mickdw

THat looks pretty good to me. The back is stunning. Unfortunately, the basic model wont be anything as nice as that.
For my taste, that is a million miles ahead of the current BMW 3 Series while is relatively new too.
These shots or similar have been out weeks ago though.

Mr.David

I think it looks great, much better than the current model!

MuppetCheck

Compared to its competitors it looks clean and modern. I really like it. The 3-series isn't the nicest looking unless you pay well to make it that way and I suspect this may be similar. Both are infinitely better looking than any of the cooking A4 models.

AugustusMinimus

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Compared to its competitors it looks clean and modern. I really like it. The 3-series isn't the nicest looking unless you pay well to make it that way and I suspect this may be similar. Both are infinitely better looking than any of the cooking A4 models.

A4 is now easily the oldest of the 3. I still think the A4 is better looking than the 3 series which has some odd styling cues to say the least. From a profile, it also looks out of proportion.



Bonnet is much too long for the car and the sudden dip near the headlights looks awful. The boot then starts up way to high. Its like BMW welded 2 different cars together.

but43r

The back looks out of place. I can only imagine what it will look like with a single exhaust.
Front on the other hand looks very nice (but again I doubt that the base model will get that bumper).

Tea 1000

I like it. Interior looks really well too. I like the face-lift in the current model too.

holdmybeer

It looks tasty but I wouldn't be a fan of the two tone look, not that I could afford one anyway.

Notch000

saw a fleet of these testing in the alps during the summer. They seem to have taimed down the rear a lot. the ones i saw had nearly a full blow S class rear on them

Stallingrad

While Merc give us a downsized S class in the C, BMW gives us an upscaled 3 series in the 7. It looks special. Mercs way of doing things is far better, I like it.

bmstuff

Car looks good but I can't help noticing Mercedes still can't build an engine.
5.5 twin turbo that produces 450 HP? Really sounds like the engine R&D is done by Americans, again.

ofcork

The reason its 450hp in the c class is so the s class,sl,cl etc have the same engine but with higher power output up to 563hp.

johndaman66

I do like the front and the somewhat muscular look going out at the sides. Wouldn't be overly sold on the look of the rear end, looks a small bit odd from there but surely not the most overly offensive look either.

Mr.David

bmstuff wrote: »

Mercedes still can't build an engine.

You cannot be serious?!

Mercedes have probably made the best V8s of the last decade (the only one that would rival it in my opinion is the Ferrari V8).

The 6.3 unit is a work of art, it is utterly fabulous.

bmstuff

Mr.David wrote: »

You cannot be serious?!

Mercedes have probably made the best V8s of the last decade (the only one that would rival it in my opinion is the Ferrari V8).

The 6.3 unit is a work of art, it is utterly fabulous.

Sure I am
What I am critical about is the huge size of the engine they have to build in order to match power output from other manufacturers.
Now even with double turbos their engines still do not match brands such bmw, maserati etc.
Maserati has a 3.0 v6 engine with twin turbo that outputs 410hp. Mercedes has to go over 5l to make just an extra 40hp. Sure the Merc probably has a bit more torque.
At the end of the day those Merc engines are just less efficient and less powerful by a good bit.
Imagine if the bmw e60 m5 had a 6.3l engine instead of 5. That epic amg 63 would not have been so epic.

ofcork

Can't argue with the A45 Amy with 355 bhp from a 2 litre.

bmstuff

ofcork wrote: »

Can't argue with the A45 Amy with 355 bhp from a 2 litre.

Yeah about time they make something more efficient...

Mr.David

bmstuff wrote: »

Sure I am
What I am critical about is the huge size of the engine they have to build in order to match power output from other manufacturers.
Now even with double turbos their engines still do not match brands such bmw, maserati etc.
Maserati has a 3.0 v6 engine with twin turbo that outputs 410hp. Mercedes has to go over 5l to make just an extra 40hp. Sure the Merc probably has a bit more torque.
At the end of the day those Merc engines are just less efficient and less powerful by a good bit.
Imagine if the bmw e60 m5 had a 6.3l engine instead of 5. That epic amg 63 would not have been so epic.

Hang on, engine capacity is chosen for so so many more reasons than just the headline power figure.

The character, driveability and torque characteristics are all equally relevant here.

Your point is just wrong, I'm sorry but its not a matter of opinion! For instance, the Mercedes A45 AMG has a 2.0L 4 cylinder turbocharged engine. The power output? 360bhp, making it not only the most powerful 4 cylinder production engine but also has one of the highest (if not the highest) power outputs per litre capacity.

You cannot reduce an engine to a bhp figure, you are missing the point completely. A large capacity normally aspirated V8 is something to be celebrated, it has a character that will never be matched by a smaller turbocharged motor.

Go drive one. Then we can talk.

bmstuff

Mr.David wrote: »

Hang on, engine capacity is chosen for so so many more reasons than just the headline power figure.

The character, driveability and torque characteristics are all equally relevant here.

Your point is just wrong, I'm sorry but its not a matter of opinion! For instance, the Mercedes A45 AMG has a 2.0L 4 cylinder turbocharged engine. The power output? 360bhp, making it not only the most powerful 4 cylinder production engine but also has one of the highest (if not the highest) power outputs per litre capacity.

You cannot reduce an engine to a bhp figure, you are missing the point completely. A large capacity normally aspirated V8 is something to be celebrated, it has a character that will never be matched by a smaller turbocharged motor.

Go drive one. Then we can talk.

I think you misunderstood me completely. ..I am not critisizing big engines, as a matter of fact I drivea a 4.4l v8 on a daily basis and put 100 euros petrol in it each week...what I said is that mercedes has made big engines for years that were so much bigger compared to the competition but had less power and torque output...so less efficient than most other car manufacturers. ..only now Mercedes is starting to catch up.
There is nothing to argue about these are simple facts.

Mr.David

bmstuff wrote: »

I think you misunderstood me completely. ..I am not critisizing big engines, as a matter of fact I drivea a 4.4l v8 on a daily basis and put 100 euros petrol in it each week...what I said is that mercedes has made big engines for years that were so much bigger compared to the competition but had less power and torque output...so less efficient than most other car manufacturers. ..only now Mercedes is starting to catch up.
There is nothing to argue about these are simple facts.

I guess we can agree to disagree. One other point though, is if you look at the rates of engine failure Mercedes are extremely low. Audi and BMW are shockingly high by comparison so perhaps Mercedes sometimes strike a better balance?

I say all this as a huge BMW fan, and much less of a Merc fan than you might assume.

Tea 1000

bmstuff wrote: »

Sure I am
What I am critical about is the huge size of the engine they have to build in order to match power output from other manufacturers.
Now even with double turbos their engines still do not match brands such bmw, maserati etc.
Maserati has a 3.0 v6 engine with twin turbo that outputs 410hp. Mercedes has to go over 5l to make just an extra 40hp. Sure the Merc probably has a bit more torque.
At the end of the day those Merc engines are just less efficient and less powerful by a good bit.
Imagine if the bmw e60 m5 had a 6.3l engine instead of 5. That epic amg 63 would not have been so epic.

That's completely missing the point though. Honda for example have a 2 litre N/A engine with 237bhp and at the same time a 3.5 V6 with around 250bhp. That's not because they couldn't be bothered designing a decent engine with the V6.
Pagani turned to Mercedes when looking for their engine for a good reason!
In most countries the actual cc of the engine isn't a factor at all. Character, power and power delivery all matter. CC doesn't.
BMW have a 4.4 V8 with less power than their own 3.2 I6.
Mercedes make some epic engines. So do BMW and Honda and many others, all with different reasons behind their existence. From power delivery, character and sound, manufacturing reasons, lightness, all those factors dictate the final products. Different strokes for different folks... (see what I did there? :P )

Dord

Looks nice! It seems like the front styling has gone back nearer to the pre-facelift W204 than the current facelift model.

AugustusMinimus

Dord wrote: »

Looks nice! It seems like the front styling has gone back nearer to the pre-facelift W204 than the current facelift model.

That's a good thing.

They made a mess of the facelift model. The lights look absolutely terrible on it.

Dord

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

That's a good thing.

They made a mess of the facelift model. The lights look absolutely terrible on it.

Yup, I couldn't agree more! I'm seriously contemplating buying a pre-facelift C180K next year. I'd go for a bigger engine but they're impossible to find here.

Tea 1000

Dord wrote: »

Yup, I couldn't agree more! I'm seriously contemplating buying a pre-facelift C180K next year. I'd go for a bigger engine but they're impossible to find here.

The pre-facelift interior is poor though, the post-facelift is so far ahead it's worth putting up with the slightly weird headlights!

Dord

Tea 1000 wrote: »

The pre-facelift interior is poor though, the post-facelift is so far ahead it's worth putting up with the slightly weird headlights!

True. Although, I drive a first generation facelift A-class so my expectations are low. :pac::o:(

ofcork

bmstuff wrote: »

Sure I am
What I am critical about is the huge size of the engine they have to build in order to match power output from other manufacturers.
Now even with double turbos their engines still do not match brands such bmw, maserati etc.
Maserati has a 3.0 v6 engine with twin turbo that outputs 410hp. Mercedes has to go over 5l to make just an extra 40hp. Sure the Merc probably has a bit more torque.
At the end of the day those Merc engines are just less efficient and less powerful by a good bit.
Imagine if the bmw e60 m5 had a 6.3l engine instead of 5. That epic amg 63 would not have been so epic.

The 63 is a historical thing as well going back to the 300sel 6.3 of the 70s and its a 6.2 now but only used in the c63 and the sls now.

Mc Love

The rear light cluster looks like they came off an SLS

ofcork

Have a look at the new s class,rear lights are pretty similar.

IrishHomer

Does anyone know what date the new C class is available?

MisterDrak

Mercedes C 180 BlueTEC

I had New Mercedes C 180 BlueTEC for the weekend, on a drive down to Sligo on Saturday and back yesterday afternoon. Only had 100miles on the clock when I picked it up. The car was met black with full white leather interior and decent mid-range 18" alloys.

Have to say it was a nice drive in comfort setting on the motorways, however the Sport and Sport plus setting are a bit of a waist of time. The car holds onto the gears way to long, and it just seems to generate more noise that actually changing the driving characteristic.

The car is a head turner, nice shape and put together well. I had the more sporty grill, rather that the more classic Mercedes one. The Radio / media / Satnav / car control all pretty good, with the controller (roller and mouse) working well to select option and drill down to lower menus. Quality of the control screen again pretty good, if a little small.

I did 400 odd miles over the two days and cost around €42 to re-fill, that range...

The Good
The day running lights are very cool.
The interior fit and finish, excellent.
Nice overall shape of car.
Good level of motorway refinement, and road noise suppression
Soaked up bumps and potholes nicely.
Economy

The Bad
The Start stop a bit to intrusive, and no need to stop between selecting reverse, i.e. to sensitive.
Finish in the boot, back of the rear seat is uncovered metal?
Drive selector on the right of the steering wheel takes some getting used to.

The ugly
Sport plus when trying to overtake from a lower gear, noisy and pointless.

mickdw

I really like the look of this c class. I usually wouldn't even look towards this segment in a 4 door but this is very nice.