Riyals - how to date banknotes

Lafindub

Hi,

Hope this is not a duplicate post, my phone appears to have eaten my first attempt. Apologies if it is.

I'm wondering if anyone can help me date the riyals in the attached pictures. Google not helping.

Thanks in advance 😊

Hownowcow

Hi Lafindub,

I was hoping that you would get a reply to this as I'd be interested in the answer too. In the absence of someone who knows what they are talking about I can give an opinion but I have to say I may be completely off the wall.

The attached image is taken from your 100 Riyal note and is the only thing that looked like a date to me. When you convert these Arabic numbers they read 1379/7/1. When you put this date into an Islamic to Gregorian calendar converter it comes up with 31st December 1959.

I have to repeat I may be talking nonsense.

coylemj

Hownowcow wrote: »

The attached image is taken from your 100 Riyal note and is the only thing that looked like a date to me. When you convert these Arabic numbers they read 1379/7/1. When you put this date into an Islamic to Gregorian calendar converter it comes up with 31st December 1959.

I think that date is part of the note design and is more likely the date the issuing agency/central bank was founded rather than the date the note was printed. I'm pretty sure I can see the same date in the 5 Riyal green note as well. Can't make it out on the one riyal note because the second image is way out of focus.

Are those dates printed in black in the opposite corners in the 100 riyal (red) note or serial numbers?

Hownowcow

Your probably right. Like I said I could be talking nonsense. All I was looking for was something resembling a date on the note.

To me the black writing reads: 20/702517

Lafindub

Hi folks,

Thanks for replying. I've done some more research today. Not much joy in finding an exact date but it would seem the 'issue' is from 1966, second edition of Riyal notes after some other type of currency - a note of some description used like money. It's way more complicated than that but that's the gist of what I got from it.

Sorry the photos are so poor. I took and uploaded the pics using my phone, It's only now I'm on the PC I can see how poor the focus is.

The black writing is a serial number and is as you read Hownowcow.

Here's what I've learned so far:

The issues are 1966 issues.

There are two types within that issue, distinguishable by the differing signatures. Two specific signatures together on a note (the ones in the photos) are 'Sig.4'. The other type is signed by one of those people and another (change of office during issuing period I think) and it is 'Sig.5' for the purposes of identifying the note.

The serial number pre-fixes for this issue of 100 Riyal notes ran from 1-27 so my note is 'prefix' 20, high in the grand scheme of things. For the 5 Riyal notes the pre-fixes ran from 1-50, my ones being 25, 37 and 42 - not bad. For the 1 riyals notes they ran from 51-140 and mine are 109, 134 and 129 - not great.

More research to do to see if there is a definite way to find out the exact date or if it's even important with riyals.

Thanks again for the input. Hope my own little bit of homework has helped you too hownowcow.

Lafindub

Sorry, meant to also say the other half has shown me how to scan and upload pics from the PC. Will give it a go in case anyone else can shed some light on the matter.

Cheers.

coylemj

Lafindub wrote: »

Sorry, meant to also say the other half has shown me how to scan and upload pics from the PC. Will give it a go in case anyone else can shed some light on the matter.

Cheers.

Your first photo was fine, not sure why the second one was so badly out of focus. On a conventional camera it would typically be because you pressed the shutter button all the way down before the camera had a chance to focus, not sure if there is an equivalent with a phone camera

Can you flip the one riyal note so that the front of each note is in the same photo and v.v. - that means the rear with the black printed date or serial number of all three notes is in the same photo.

Lafindub

Trying to get it done now.....

BRB

Lafindub

think I've done it. Have I?

Lafindub

yay!!!

Lafindub

Ooh, I've looked these up on eBay and the 100 might be worth a few bob! So exciting. I wouldn't sell it, will keep safe for my wee girl but it's a real buzz doing this.

Myself and husband were clearing out the house and garage and came across a folder and box of random notes and coins. Though mostly worthless they're bloody amazing to look at and imagine life when they came into circulation.

There's a really old coin (1797 cartwheel penny I've learned through google!) that has really blown me away. It's not worth a great deal but ... wow, 17 bloody 97!!!

Might seem insignificant to a collector who probably has a box of them but to my ordinary self they're quite something.

I'll get nothing done this week!

Hownowcow

Lafindub wrote: »

Ooh, I've looked these up on eBay and the 100 might be worth a few bob! So exciting. I wouldn't sell it, will keep safe for my wee girl but it's a real buzz doing this.

Myself and husband were clearing out the house and garage and came across a folder and box of random notes and coins. Though mostly worthless they're bloody amazing to look at and imagine life when they came into circulation.

There's a really old coin (1797 cartwheel penny I've learned through google!) that has really blown me away. It's not worth a great deal but ... wow, 17 bloody 97!!!

Might seem insignificant to a collector who probably has a box of them but to my ordinary self they're quite something.

I'll get nothing done this week!

Thanks for all the information in your earlier post.

I had a look at eBay after reading this post. Nice find. Well done.

I had the same reaction when I first found an old coin. It's what got me started collecting.

I completely understand not getting anything done because of it.

Best of luck.

Lafindub

Thanks

Another surprise today! I knew my husband and his friend had been given the notes and coins as children by a neighbour. What I didn't know was that he was a collector and apparently what he gave them was the 'scrap' he didn't want from a substantial and impressive collection according to my husbands memory. So they didn't just end up in someones purse or wallet after a holiday (in 1797 ), they were purposely collected. I think that's lovely but then I'm an auld soft, sentimental creature. Two little boys given money to play with and now here I am looking at several pieces of history from all over the world. Very cool!

I'll have to start another thread and see what else I can find out.

Thanks again, take care