water heater

TEAT SQUEEZER

need a new heater for dairy .. have a 200l but would like a 300l .. any brands that people are happy with... will probably just put up an immersion on night rate.. thanks

John_F

http://www.cotswold-dairy.co.uk/products/dairy-water-heater

GEA use the same one in their parlours. see an ad on the journal by cotswold often enough. they are vented heaters and so fill on a timer, then boil on timer and dump the water down by gravity without having cold water push through like a pressure water heater.

Viewtodiefor

John_F wrote: »

http://www.cotswold-dairy.co.uk/products/dairy-water-heater

GEA use the same one in their parlours. see an ad on the journal by cotswold often enough. they are vented heaters and so fill on a timer, then boil on timer and dump the water down by gravity without having cold water push through like a pressure water heater.

Looks a right job. Any idea of price though?

mahoney_j

John_F wrote: »

http://www.cotswold-dairy.co.uk/products/dairy-water-heater

GEA use the same one in their parlours. see an ad on the journal by cotswold often enough. they are vented heaters and so fill on a timer, then boil on timer and dump the water down by gravity without having cold water push through like a pressure water heater.

Looked at it when putting in my parlour but it was around 3 k so didn't bother and put in a pressure heater for just over a grand and have it on a timer to heat at night.did you get parlour in after john??

lakill Farm

bbam is the man to talk to

I bought a 150l one for hot water for feeding calves. The lad I bought it off was going from electric to oil burner heated one.

Viewtodiefor

Was thinking of buying a solar kit from uk as a practice run for installing it in the house! Reckon I could get the parts for around 1500 euro.

Timmaay

There is a grant available on water heaters as part of the dairy equipment scheme, if you haven't already used it. I don't know if they will give a grant just for the water heater but might be worth a shot.

colrow

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

Was thinking of buying a solar kit from uk as a practice run for installing it in the house! Reckon I could get the parts for around 1500 euro.

I'm just curious, Do you think you are going to get the water hot enough ?

Or is it just to preheat it to use less fuel ?

Viewtodiefor

colrow wrote: »

I'm just curious, Do you think you are going to get the water hot enough ?

Or is it just to preheat it to use less fuel ?

I'm planning to use it with a dual coil heated cylinder approx 200lts. Either heated electrically ( cheaper installed) or oil burner, prob cheaper run. It will also be piped to the pit so hot water will be available there. A mate of mine got one installed last year and from march to September nearly all hot water comes from the panels.

If you want something simple then a second hand oil burner (central heating type) hooked up to an insulated cylinder will give you all the water you need for the year for approx the price of a 40gallon drum of kerosene. Seen this in action too. Simple job.

satstheway

http://www.donedeal.ie/farmservices-for-sale/hot-water-cylinder/4764522
I see lot of these in houses for heating domestic hot water. Run on night rate there bound to be a saving.

Timmaay

satstheway wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/farmservices-for-sale/hot-water-cylinder/4764522
I see lot of these in houses for heating domestic hot water. Run on night rate there bound to be a saving.

Whats the renewable aspect to them?? Worrying that they don't say ha, is it solar, geothermal or what?

RobertKK

http://www.flogas.ie/index.php?id=1232

Be nice if costs were given. 7 minutes to heat to 80C is very good though.

satstheway

Timmaay wrote: »

Whats the renewable aspect to them?? Worrying that they don't say ha, is it solar, geothermal or what?

More info on web site.
Think it a air to water heat pump that's all in one unit with the tank.
The ones I seen in ppl's houses have a cold air exhaust vented through the wall or roof.

colrow

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

I'm planning to use it with a dual coil heated cylinder approx 200lts. Either heated electrically ( cheaper installed) or oil burner, prob cheaper run. It will also be piped to the pit so hot water will be available there. A mate of mine got one installed last year and from march to September nearly all hot water comes from the panels.
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Thanks View, we got solar water heating installed this summer, I think its 325 litres, with three coils solar, oil and back burner from stove.

We didn't use the stove or oil all summer, theres 3 temp monitors on it, the solar panels, top of the tank and bottom of the tank.

On a really good day I've seen 190 deg c on the solar panels and the water at the top of the tank at 79 deg C and 60 at the bottom.

Even now with the temp about 10 degs outside the solar panels get upto 30 deg on a cloudy day, and the bottom about 26 degs. So having the stove lit it doesnt take long to keep the water hot.

We've saved a fortune in oil over the summer, at least a tankful at 1k a fill.

pms7

200 litre barrel with immersion fitted to bottom. Stick it up high on wall, ballcock fill. Wrap some insulation around it. Not very efficient, but cheap, ok for once a month job

John_F

saw a gas one at the ploughing, he claimed there were significant savings but i didn'y put much heed http://www.magentadirect.ie/proddetail.php?prod=WATERHEATER

mahoney_j wrote: »

Looked at it when putting in my parlour but it was around 3 k so didn't bother and put in a pressure heater for just over a grand and have it on a timer to heat at night.did you get parlour in after john??

Does the wash trough take long to fill then? ours is gravity fed into the wash trough and so hot water is dumped down in about a minute and machine on.
Yes milking since june and happy out, they really do have good equipment and know what they are at when it comes to not just milking and cows but milk quality etc. the gear is made to go 23 hours a day really like! still getting into the features of the dairy plan program but have the important stuff picked up with a good bit, the amount of information available in the pit from the P21 is unreal if you need it e.g. how long a cow is calved, how much meal she is getting, activity level, conductivity, previous milking, and even her last milk recorded cell count! also handy to put medicines into the program from the pit, the pieces of paper are gone!!! Cow control is excellent with 900mm centres, have a number of heifers calved down now and no issue with jumping on troughs or moving in and out, older cows not bullying lighter cows to get feed or anything.

feeding to yield at the min (split calving here), some cows getting 7kg of nut and others getting shag all so big difference on before throwing nuts over their heads and spending 5.5-6 hours a day in a parlour.

So far happy out, but I say give it at least 5 years to see if there is any issue as it is a long term investment. however speaking to anyone who bought one they had zero trouble bar a milk pump in 14 years.

have you got stimulation going? I only put it going about a month ago and wondering if its the right thing to do, current routine is pre foam, apply cluster and post spray.

Apploogies to the OP for hyjacking the thread a little