Calf heart attack

TITANIUM.

Got home yesterday evening after work. Went back the yard to check the cows
And found a grand 2 Month old pedigree Charolais Bull thrown out on the slats. Rang vet. 35mins later arrived examined the calf and said that hes having a heart attack.
30 minutes later and he was dead.
I can hear his mother balling all night twould break your heart.jusr another bad day at the office I spose.

Anyone come across that before?

bbam

We had a seven month old ch die of heart failure.
PM was done and report back from lab was "white muscle disease" through a selenium deficiency.

nhg

We have an 18 mth old CHX bullock gone to the lab at the min, waiting for results, heart problems too we think

hugo29

Is that just a ch problem, seems funny all the cases above have been ch

TITANIUM.

Ya the vet said that a vitamin E or selenium deficiency can briNg it on.
Is it expensive to send um to the lab?

TITANIUM.

hugo29 wrote: »

Is that just a ch problem, seems funny all the cases above have been ch

I doubt its restricted to Ch but maybe there more susceptible alright.
Im not a happy camper this morning anyway.

bbam

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Ya the vet said that a vitamin E or selenium deficiency can briNg it on.
Is it expensive to send um to the lab?

I think it cost €120 inc courier.
Near No charge for vet as she put animal down when she arrived, came as doa on bill €30 even though it was 9pm on a Friday and she spent another two hours on the PM. She's sound out.

whelan1

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Ya the vet said that a vitamin E or selenium deficiency can briNg it on.
Is it expensive to send um to the lab?

would your vet not do the pm at the knackery ?

RobertKK

Had a lovely Salers bull calf die of a heart attack a couple of months ago.

Had three including him on a cow, he was getting concentrates and was a real block of an animal.
Fed him his feed and he was a real pet of an animal and he was his usual lively self, an hour later he was stretched out and dead.

Happened years ago with a calf, father was dehorning this heifer calf and she just died.

A bad heart, nothing you can do about it, just be happy it is your animal, not a family member, yourself or someone you know.

bbam

RobertKK wrote: »

Had a lovely Salers bull calf die of a heart attack a couple of months ago.

Had three including him on a cow, he was getting concentrates and was a real block of an animal.
Fed him his feed and he was a real pet of an animal and he was his usual lively self, an hour later he was stretched out and dead.

Happened years ago with a calf, father was dehorning this heifer calf and she just died.

A bad heart, nothing you can do about it, just be happy it is your animal, not a family member, yourself or someone you know.

Sometimes.
But ours was down to a selenium diffiency.
They recommended that we keep multi vit with animals at grass. Planning a bolus next spring.

TEAT SQUEEZER

had a cow collapse on leaving parlour last winter... she was sprawled out and peddling yhe legs.. her eyes were jammed shut and the tongue was out... i said to myself good luck she`ll be gone in a minute...
i then remembered the vet saying that calcium settled the heart so i went for two bottles iv .(finding even the milk vein near impossable with low blood pressure).. got the 2 bottles in and she was up in 10 minutes and is still with us today.. i doubt it was tetany with time of year and with the way she was acting... strange but true.

hugo29

TEAT SQUEEZER wrote: »

had a cow collapse on leaving parlour last winter... she was sprawled out and peddling yhe legs.. her eyes were jammed shut and the tongue was out... i said to myself good luck she`ll be gone in a minute...
i then remembered the vet saying that calcium settled the heart so i went for two bottles iv .(finding even the milk vein near impossable with low blood pressure).. got the 2 bottles in and she was up in 10 minutes and is still with us today.. i doubt it was tetany with time of year and with the way she was acting... strange but true.

Had calf do something similar last year, vet reckons he had a fit, went 800 euro in mart few weeks ago

KatyMac

I had a heifer that the vet thought had a stroke while calving. She wasn't able to get up and was going round in a circle as if one side was paralysed. He put her down as the poor critter was obviously suffering. Her calf made a great animal is the only good about this story.

slippy wicket

Happened to a for bull calf that was standing right beside me while I was getting a calf sucking on feeder.
Calf went rigid all of a sudden and dropped stone dead, no heartbeat or anything.
Scared the absolute crap out of me at the time.
No stray voltage in the house, so couldn't have been that.

TITANIUM.

whelan1 wrote: »

would your vet not do the pm at the knackery ?

They could of course but nothing like the tests done in the lab.
There's no comparison between the two according to the vet

whelan1

TITANIUM. wrote: »

They could of course but nothing like the tests done in the lab.
There's no comparison between the two according to the vet

but our vet would send off the tests...again each to their own

TITANIUM.

whelan1 wrote: »

but our vet would send off the tests...again each to their own

Id rather have the animal opened in lab and done there tbh. Allot more thorough in the lad.

whelan1

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Id rather have the animal opened in lab and done there tbh. Allot more thorough in the lad.

yup but if your animal died yesterday, when will it reach the lab. fair enough during the week

jersey101

Any one ever witnessed a calf having a fit?
I seen one a few yr ago it was unreal. Calf on her back jerking all over the place and then gets up and runs off.

whelan1

jersey101 wrote: »

Any one ever witnessed a calf having a fit?
I seen one a few yr ago it was unreal. Calf on her back jerking all over the place and then gets up and runs off.

yes had a pb aa heifer calf at it last year, sent the mother crazy, calf ended up dying

jersey101

whelan1 wrote: »

yes had a pb aa heifer calf at it last year, sent the mother crazy, calf ended up dying

ye its a weird thing too see

whelan1

jersey101 wrote: »

ye its a weird thing too see

yup you feel very helpless

lakill Farm

colic is another bad auld thing in a calf

keep going

I was dehorning a little half twin heifer last year and she was wriggling away when suddenly she just conked .laid her out on the ground and there was nothing, no breathing, no blink, nothing .then after about minute she came around got up and walked away

Sharpshooter82

keep going wrote: »

I was dehorning a little half twin heifer last year and she was wriggling away when suddenly she just conked .laid her out on the ground and there was nothing, no breathing, no blink, nothing .then after about minute she came around got up and walked away

Shock maybe

lakill Farm

keep going wrote: »

I was dehorning a little half twin heifer last year and she was wriggling away when suddenly she just conked .laid her out on the ground and there was nothing, no breathing, no blink, nothing .then after about minute she came around got up and walked away

I presume she will be sold with 2 big horns:D

delaval

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Id rather have the animal opened in lab and done there tbh. Allot more thorough in the lad.

Your result will be inconclusive, that's the only result I ever got from the lab. Gave it up years ago

delaval

keep going wrote: »

I was dehorning a little half twin heifer last year and she was wriggling away when suddenly she just conked .laid her out on the ground and there was nothing, no breathing, no blink, nothing .then after about minute she came around got up and walked away

She was choking in crate and revived when released I bet

Kovu

Interesting that Hugo mentioned CH animals, we had one a few years ago that the vet decided needed a blood transfusion. So big job started, bleeding the cow, sticking it into him. 20 mins later he was stone dead:rolleyes:
Bad heart in that case, though the shock prob ddnt help.

He had the most awesome name too. 'Little Dude Man'!

The vet in question is now a dept vet too!

bbam

delaval wrote: »

Your result will be inconclusive, that's the only result I ever got from the lab. Gave it up years ago

We only did it once and got an answer.
Sent all organs off complete in a sealed sterile bucket.