3 day old BB calf scouring blood

Richk2012

3 day old BB calf . Started scouring blood this morning .
Was fine up to this .
He is still in good form but its running out of him like a tap .
Cow was vaccinated with Rotavec .
Is he too young for coccidiosis ???

Have him on Biamastat and antibiotic but im not sure what is actually wrong with him ???

Can i give him Vecoxan at 3 days ????

whelan1

Richk2012 wrote: »

3 day old BB calf . Started scouring blood this morning .
Was fine up to this .
He is still in good form but its running out of him like a tap .
Cow was vaccinated with Rotavec .
Is he too young for coccidiosis ???

Have him on Biamastat and antibiotic but im not sure what is actually wrong with him ???

Can i give him Vecoxan at 3 days ????

nope, they are not born with coccidiosis they meet it, 10 days is the youngest to give it. maybe give a life aid? is it much blood, could he have got a hurt?

Richk2012

whelan1 wrote: »

nope, they are not born with coccidiosis they meet it, 10 days is the youngest to give it. maybe give a life aid? is it much blood, could he have got a hurt?

Thats what im thinking .
Im nearly sure he didnt get a hurt because its just him and the cow alone in a big shed , but it was such a heavy calving i wonder did i crack a rib or rupture something with the pressure on him coming out .

Yea an awful lot of blood , but its stinking too ..

Suppose just give him a life aid sachet to keep him hydrated and keep biamastat incase of the scour ??
If its internal damage i dont see much hope tbh

jersey101

Richk2012 wrote: »

Thats what im thinking .
Im nearly sure he didnt get a hurt because its just him and the cow alone in a big shed , but it was such a heavy calving i wonder did i crack a rib or rupture something with the pressure on him coming out .

Yea an awful lot of blood , but its stinking too ..

Suppose just give him a life aid sachet to keep him hydrated and keep biamastat incase of the scour ??
If its internal damage i dont see much hope tbh

any sign of a scour here we give em kaoline powder here. Really dries them up

whelan1

Richk2012 wrote: »

Thats what im thinking .
Im nearly sure he didnt get a hurt because its just him and the cow alone in a big shed , but it was such a heavy calving i wonder did i crack a rib or rupture something with the pressure on him coming out .

Yea an awful lot of blood , but its stinking too ..

Suppose just give him a life aid sachet to keep him hydrated and keep biamastat incase of the scour ??
If its internal damage i dont see much hope tbh

might be no harm to run it by the vet... what ya injecting him with?

whelan1

Richk2012 wrote: »

Thats what im thinking .
Im nearly sure he didnt get a hurt because its just him and the cow alone in a big shed , but it was such a heavy calving i wonder did i crack a rib or rupture something with the pressure on him coming out .

Yea an awful lot of blood , but its stinking too ..

Suppose just give him a life aid sachet to keep him hydrated and keep biamastat incase of the scour ??
If its internal damage i dont see much hope tbh

is it fresh blood or old blood?

Bigbird1

Sounds like the calf was drinking the blood from the cow, this happens a neighbour with a very milky simmental cow every year, milk the cow see if she is giving milk or blood

Richk2012

Just back from him now .

He in top form . Have him in seperate pen from cow .
Hasnt had milk since early today and he was mad for suck.
Drank 2 ltrs of Liquid Life aid just there and his tail is now dry .

I have used Kaolin too a couple of years ago when we had a break out of crypto , thankfully i havent needed it since ..

Was onto vet today and he said Biamastat and antibiotic .
Starting to question the advice and knowledge of the vet tbh after a couple of previous incidents but thats not for discussion here..

Thats a good point about the blood in the beastings , it never clicked with me about that , but i know thats not the issue here as this calf is so big he only standing properly yesterday as he couldnt hold his weight for very long and up until this morning i was milking the cow and feeding him .
There was no blood in her milk ..

Only other thing that springs to mind is that he was tubed for first couple of feeds .
Could the tube have scraped the lining of the throat or stomach and caused bleeding ???
We've tubed lots of calves over time and never had this before though

bbam

Even though it's only him and the cow he could still have got a hurt. She wouldn't be the first cow to hurt or even kill a calf so I wouldn't rule that out.

If he's still passing blood after a few days I'd be getting the vet in.

I've heard if blood in beastings but at this stage it should be more milk than beastings so it should be better.

If it was his troat or he was drinking the blood. Would he not digest it??? I'd be thinking more of a bowel problem.


For a calf of this value it's a no brainer getting the vet to check it out. Particularly if it's isolated, our vet would pop in herself and check it out, even if I'm not here.

Is it just because he's passing blood that he's isolated from his mother?

whelan1

hows the calf?

Richk2012

whelan1 wrote: »

hows the calf?

I was going to let you know this evening .

Friday afternoon was when he passed the blood .
Friday evening i posted the question on here to try an get a bit of advice as i had never seen this before in such a young calf .
He is a snow white bb , and his backend was covered in blood even before i seen him pass it , so he must have been at it from late friday morning .

Saturday morning i gave him his 2nd dose of life aid and after he had finished it lifted his tail and massaged him to make him dung .
Normal light brown sticky paste like dung that you would expect to see .
Not even a hint of blood in it .
Couldnt believe it .
He never once failed in form over the few days either .

Vet said it was something that was in him and just passed through him but the calf never actually had a scour problem .

Maybe i hit the panic button a bit soon when i seen it , but i had lost a good bull calf at the start of the week and didnt want to lose another one .

Thanks for all the above advice . Much appreciated .

Sharpshooter82

Richk2012 wrote: »

I was going to let you know this evening .

Friday afternoon was when he passed the blood .
Friday evening i posted the question on here to try an get a bit of advice as i had never seen this before in such a young calf .
He is a snow white bb , and his backend was covered in blood even before i seen him pass it , so he must have been at it from late friday morning .

Saturday morning i gave him his 2nd dose of life aid and after he had finished it lifted his tail and massaged him to make him dung .
Normal light brown sticky paste like dung that you would expect to see .
Not even a hint of blood in it .
Couldnt believe it .
He never once failed in form over the few days either .

Vet said it was something that was in him and just passed through him but the calf never actually had a scour problem .

Maybe i hit the panic button a bit soon when i seen it , but i had lost a good bull calf at the start of the week and didnt want to lose another one .

Thanks for all the above advice . Much appreciated .

Good to hear Rich