War wounds, old and new (Graphic pix warning)

Peetrik

I've had plenty of the usual knocks and bumps, but nothing that's ever stopped my training for any serious amount of time.

Worst I've had was from 1 month ago, 9 stitches in total, 3 inside, 6 outside. >Pic NSFW<

How about everyone else? Anyone been seriously injured either in training or in competition?

arybvtcw0eolkf

^^^Very f*cking nice man!.. I've had a few but I'm off out to work, and they're not as sexy as that!.

Dave 101

distal radial fracture from falling onto outstretched arm after slipping kicking the thai pads, (pics below not mine but very similar)

after they took the wraps off in the hospital my arm looked like the below without the blood tho



a few kwires inserted to hold it together like below



wrist is grand now took about a year to fully recover

Doug Cartel

Jesus guys, bit of warning please.


Oh also, check this out

http://i.imgur.com/RyefsPN.png

Peetrik

That a collar bone Doug?

Doug Cartel

It is. Had to get a plate put in.

Peetrik

Doug Cartel wrote: »

It is. Had to get a plate put in.

Haha yikes. Fair play

Tim_Murphy

Peetrik wrote: »

I've had plenty of the usual knocks and bumps, but nothing that's ever stopped my training for any serious amount of time.

Worst I've had was from 1 month ago, 9 stitches in total, 3 inside, 6 outside. >Pic NSFW<

How about everyone else? Anyone been seriously injured either in training or in competition?

Jebus, that is some cut. :eek:
What did you get hit with?

I'm been very lucky really, customary neck and back issues that so many grapplers have, a few other injuries but nothing too serious. One bad concussion alright but that was years ago. My ears aren't the prettiest anymore either but what can you do.

Peetrik

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

Jebus, that is some cut. :eek:
What did you get hit with?

Spinning back elbow, similar to this.

I'd consider the back/neck injuries a lot more serious than flesh wounds tbh, they last a lot longer at any rate

Doug Cartel

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

... customary neck and back issues that so many grapplers have...

Lots of people seem to consider these as par for the course, but in my not so expert opinion, I really don't think they are. If you are regularly getting a sore back or neck I think it's a sign that something is going wrong with your training. Either you're doing something wrong or you have some kind of weakness/postural/mobility issue that needs to be worked on. (And this applies on the mats, in the gym, and even in the office sitting at a computer.)

I've had plenty of problems with my back in the past, and especially after getting my clavicle fixed, but once I started working on maintaining good mobility in my hips and thoracic spine, holding good posture, and being extra careful to do throws etc. with good form I've been much better.

Before busting my collar bone, I would usually be in bits after each session and assumed that that was just the way things were. Now I'm usually grand. Even after a tough session, it's more a feeling of "god I'm tired", instead of "ow I'm sore". I don't think I'm putting any less effort into training, and I'm not shying away from sparring with anyone who's stronger than me - I'm just being more careful about what I do.

OK, that's just my story, and it won't apply to everyone, but I do think that back problems are something you need to actively take care of and can be a sign you're doing something wrong. Work on your mobility, pay attention to which muscles you are using when you move, and try and identify if there is something specific in your technique that is causing you problems. I've found training much more enjoyable since I've started thinking this way.

pablohoney87

In fairness when youve trained with as many new lads )who'll squeeze your head expecting it to come off) as Tim has in his day, some soreness can be expected.

The main lasting "injury" Ive suffered in martial arts is some sore ears.

Got a folder of over 400 X-rays/MRI scans from my rugby/GAA days though

Doug Cartel

pablohoney87 wrote: »

In fairness when youve trained with as many new lads )who'll squeeze your head expecting it to come off) as Tim has in his day, some soreness can be expected.

Yeah that post wasn't really aimed at Tim in particular, his comment and Peetrik's follow up just made me think of how many people are training away with back problems, which don't go away because they are being unnecessarily aggravated through bad posture or movement.

Tim_Murphy

Doug Cartel wrote: »

Lots of people seem to consider these as par for the course, but in my not so expert opinion, I really don't think they are. If you are regularly getting a sore back or neck I think it's a sign that something is going wrong with your training.

Oh ya for sure, agree with your post. I have gotten a lot smarter with how I train and, more importantly, who I train with over the years and strangely enough the rates of these types of injuries have dropped hugely.

pablohoney87 wrote:

In fairness when youve trained with as many new lads )who'll squeeze your head expecting it to come off) as Tim has in his day, some soreness can be expected.

True dat!

Doug Cartel

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

more importantly, who I train with

My new favourite phrase when training with noobs is, "Stop, where do you plan on going with this?" Probably comes across as a bit condescending, but I think it's cut down on the number of strains and superficial injuries I've gotten.

Mellor

Doug Cartel wrote: »

My new favourite phrase when training with noobs is, "Stop, where do you plan on going with this?"

Out of curiosity, what sort of situations do you use it in?

Doug Cartel

Mellor wrote: »

Out of curiosity, what sort of situations do you use it in?

The main one would be if I have a pin (usually a pretty loose one with a big opening for them to slide out of) and instead of trying to escape they grab on to me and just start squeezing - often around my neck. They're not going anywhere doing this, and if I wanted I could just tough it out, or I could break their grips and probably put their am in a lock. Toughing it out can lead to me getting bruised or a sore neck, and breaking their grips can knacker their fingers if they're not used to it. I think in the long run it's better to just remind them that 1) they're not in a life or death struggle, they are just training with their friends, and 2) they need to think about what their objective is and how they are going to get to that objective.

The other time it happens is when we are standing and they turn into a throw that is going nowhere, and instead of giving up they start straining to complete the throw. I find once it gets to this stage, any counter is going to end in one of the two people involved hitting the ground pretty hard and probably quite awkwardly. If this happens more than two or three times in a round I usually just get them to stop and reset instead of going for the counter.

Doug Cartel

Oh and the other thing is that often a lot of them will be very defensive and spend the whole round just stiff-arming and trying to avoid being thrown. They might go a few rounds with no one throwing them and think they're doing great. These people can take a lot of convincing, as just throwing them more usually leads to them just trying to defend harder.

Last year we had two guys that were desperate for this and they would really dig in and just defend. Anyway, the IVs come round and it's the first big judo competition they had attended and they are psyched. Somehow they get drawn against each other. They bow onto the mat, the ref tells them to start and they both rush in, grab each other and start defending. Neither of them does *any* attacks and they both start racking up passivity penalties, until (I think) both of them were disqualified.

That is another reason why when someone gets super-defensive I no longer just go on the attack, and instead ask them to think about what they are doing.

Dyr

I dont understand the stiff arm thing, surely the best way to discourage that is to show them the flaw in it?

If they're going a few rounds with it working, then it works for them and they'll keep doing it...until it doesn't

Doug Cartel

For a lot of people, when stiff-arming fails, they just try harder to stiff-arm harder. They're panicked and they're not thinking straight. You have to get them to calm down and think about what they're doing.

Also, stiff-arming can be tough enough to overcome. So they do it and they end up being thrown once or twice in the round, compared to the five or six times they'll fall if they try to do some attacks. This causes them to come to the conclusion that stiff-arming is a better idea.

Peetrik

Had to put this up, Irelands own, Stephen Meleady fought today in Cambodia and got this free tattoo. >>NSFW<<.

Shame as he was running away with the fight