SAAB 93 2.2 diesel 2003-2004

newbie2013

Can anyone tell me details about these cars. Would they be a money pit liek some renaults, good or bad on the juice and would it be a car that has problems with head gaskets after some many miles.

furtzy

Had that engine in an 03 Vectra. Its old school diesel. I was getting around 45mpg with it though and it had plenty of torque. Only issue I had was a leaky fuel return pipe a common problem. Good engine but nothing like a modern diesel

newbie2013

furtzy wrote: »

Had that engine in an 03 Vectra. Its old school diesel. I was getting around 45mpg with it though and it had plenty of torque. Only issue I had was a leaky fuel return pipe a common problem. Good engine but nothing like a modern diesel

What you mean old skool diesel ? Is 45mpg good ?

furtzy

newbie2013 wrote: »

What you mean old skool diesel ? Is 45mpg good ?

Noisey and smokey. 45mpg is pretty good. 2.2 tax is going to be nearly €1k a year for you though. If you could stretch to buying a slightly newer 1.9 diesel 9-3 it would be a better buy

newbie2013

furtzy wrote: »

Noisey and smokey. 45mpg is pretty good. 2.2 tax is going to be nearly €1k a year for you though. If you could stretch to buying a slightly newer 1.9 diesel 9-3 it would be a better buy

The girlfriend pays the tax so no problems there lol

unkel

Why would you get the 2.2 when for the same money you can get the modern 1.9 FIAT diesel engine? Uses at least 10MPG less, several hundred cheaper to tax, probably cheaper to insure, more power, more torque

No brainer!

newbie2013

unkel wrote: »

Why would you get the 2.2 when for the same money you can get the modern 1.9 FIAT diesel engine? Uses at least 10MPG less, several hundred cheaper to tax, probably cheaper to insure, more power, more torque

No brainer!

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Mycroft H

newbie2013 wrote: »

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Yep, that Fiat engine was so good that it was used across the entire General Motors Group (Opel/Saab on this side of the pond)

The 2.2 isn't a bad engine per say; it's a bit less refined than the newer 1.9TiD, but a bit more basic at the same time.

newbie2013

Mycroft H wrote: »

Yep, that Fiat engine was so good that it was used across the entire General Motors Group (Opel/Saab on this side of the pond)

The 2.2 isn't a bad engine per say; it's a bit less refined than the newer 1.9TiD, but a bit more basic at the same time.

Will have a look out for the 1.9 diesel engine in that model. TBH, im not clued up on cars. I just by them by their look and from peoples opinions on them. Now driving an audi a4 1.8t petrol. Its a guzzeler

darragh o meara

I'm driving a 2.2 tid 9-3,for the past 6 weeks and so far its been an enjoyable experience. The engine isnt as refined as modern diesel engines and its a fairly agricultural sounding unit and a bit rattly, however I find the Mpg to be in the high 40s (comparable with my previous Passat ) so i can live with it..

So far mine hasn't missed a beat but they can give their problems so read up on them before u buy. The previous owner had my car since new and in 198k replaced : Clutch/ flywheel, 4 glow plugs,alternator,egr valve and it got a turbo in its lifetime.

Overall, plenty of poke, good mpg, noisy and higher tax.

galwaytt

darragh o meara wrote: »

I'm driving a 2.2 tid 9-3,for the past 6 weeks and so far its been an enjoyable experience. The engine isnt as refined as modern diesel engines and its a fairly agricultural sounding unit and a bit rattly, however I find the Mpg to be in the high 40s (comparable with my previous Passat ) so i can live with it..

So far mine hasn't missed a beat but they can give their problems so read up on them before u buy. The previous owner had my car since new and in 198k replaced : Clutch/ flywheel, 4 glow plugs,alternator,egr valve and it got a turbo in its lifetime.

Overall, plenty of poke, good mpg, noisy and highest tax

We changed from an 06 Saab 9-3 1.9 manual estate to an 05 2.2 9-5 automatic estate, so have experience of both.

The 1.9 is a peach, but has the same issues as all modern diesels: EGR, DMF etc. It's fast, quiet and does about 43mpg.

I wanted a simpler diesel and an auto and wanted to stick with a Saab as I've had no breakdowns with any of them. The 2.2 is an old fashioned diesel. Simpler, less powerful a bit noisier, and does about 40mpg. No DMF either
Tax on it is €951 though. Still worth it though and it's a lovely lazy comfy car. Have looked for a replacement a few times but haven't found anything as good yet. .....
Cheap to service too.

I also have a1.8t Audi and don't think it's a "guzzler" - define guzzler?

jca

Guzzler=A car that uses more fuel than you can afford.

finbarrrr

Hi All,

Could somebody recommend a mechanic on the Southside of Dublin who is familiar with Saab cars.

My car full efficiency is down 25%. Was <6l per 100km. Now 7.6l per 100km.

I got it serviced recently by my usual mechanic and he found nothing wrong while doing a full service. But the issue is still there. I think I need a mechanic familiar with Saabs.

Regards

John

jca

finbarrrr wrote: »

Hi All,

Could somebody recommend a mechanic on the Southside of Dublin who is familiar with Saab cars.

My car full efficiency is down 25%. Was <6l per 100km. Now 7.6l per 100km.

I got it serviced recently by my usual mechanic and he found nothing wrong while doing a full service. But the issue is still there. I think I need a mechanic familiar with Saabs.

Regards

John

Is that all city driving? You can expect some increase in fuel consumption during the winter months. My diesel octavia certainly uses more this time of year.

zoey48

I owned one for about 18 months and the power was excellent, fantastic for overtaking on motorways. I eventually had to get rid of it due to a high pressure diesel pump failing. This pump cost €2000 plus additional mechanics time.

Overall I would have the car looked impressive and drove well, but it was giving consistently problems, snapped front springs, electric fault, high pressure diesel pump etc.

I was advise by the mechanic that the 2.2 was a problem engine, maybe the 1.9 would be more consistent.

finbarrrr

My Car is a 04 2.2 diesel with 142,000 miles. For a Diesel that's not an issue I would have thought.

Main driving is Dublin --> Waterford on Motorway. Drove up this morning on a full tank and it was only doing 7.6 litres / 100km. First time to stop was Newlands Cross. Awful performance on an empty motorway.

Odd Zoey mentioned front spring. Mine broke three weeks ago. Also had to replace the ERG last year. Have the car two years and approx E1000 spent on it excluding servicing.

Tax is up end February and I want to decide if it's worthwhile fixing. Got it for E3200. So certainly not spending 1000 plus on it..