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Fences on mountains

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  • #2
    Conmaicne Mara
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    I would phrase it as the "fencing of mountains", not "fencing off mountains". An important bit of nit picking :) But a very important difference ;) One group sees it one way, the other another way.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057081675


  • #3
    bogman_bass
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    He was on George Hook the other day. He seems to think he has great knowlage of agricultural practice but his ignorance shines through


  • #4
    Conmaicne Mara
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    bogman_bass wrote: »
    He was on George Hook the other day. He seems to think he has great knowlage of agricultural practice but his ignorance shines through

    Was that podcast I wonder, I can't find it on their site.


  • #5
    Qualitymark
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    Today's letter is interesting - saying farmers may be hit for planning…


  • #6
    on the river
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    The mountains are a place for one and all. there natural boundaries are unquestioned for thousands of years and lets hope it will stay that way.


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  • #7
    Conmaicne Mara
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    on the river wrote: »
    The mountains are a place for one and all. there natural boundaries are unquestioned for thousands of years and lets hope it will stay that way.

    Really, how many hectares do you own there?


  • #8
    Conmaicne Mara
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    Qualitymark wrote: »
    Today's letter is interesting - saying farmers may be hit for planning…

    No may about it, are. With great help by some bodies *coughcough* reporting farmers to CoCo's, not that I would presume to mention those bodies.


  • #9
    on the river
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    Conmaicne Mara wrote: »
    Really, how many hectares do you own there?

    I have sheep grazing these hilltops for four generations now. The sheep roam free on these hilltops. Other farmers in the area have started fencing their area which have caused friction. I hope a compromise can be agreed


  • #10
    Conmaicne Mara
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    on the river wrote: »
    I have sheep grazing these hilltops for four generations now. The sheep roam free on these hilltops. Other farmers in the area have started fencing their area which have caused friction. I hope a compromise can be agreed

    have you title to graze all those areas?


  • #11
    on the river
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    Conmaicne Mara wrote: »
    have you title to graze all those areas?
    Yes i can graze most area but not all.


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  • #12
    Conmaicne Mara
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    Where is the friction coming from, or how does it affect your sheep?


  • #13
    Zoo4m8
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    Qualitymark wrote: »
    Interesting debate in Irish Times about farmers fencing off mountains:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/why-fencing-in-our-high-mountain-pastures-is-really-the-height-of-folly-1.1591190

    Today:
    http://www.irishtimes.com/debate/letters/fencing-offences-on-the-mountains-1.1593790

    Roger Garland referring to hill/sheep farmers as 'unfortunate' :eek: , Hell must have frozen over !!!


  • #14
    Qualitymark
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    Conmaicne Mara wrote: »
    Really, how many hectares do you own there?

    I am a citizen of Ireland.


  • #15
    Conmaicne Mara
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    Qualitymark wrote: »
    I am a citizen of Ireland.

    Apart from National Parks, Ireland doesn't own the hills. Private individuals, be they part of a commonage or parcel owners do.


  • #16
    supersean1999
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    Qualitymark wrote: »
    Today's letter is interesting - saying farmers may be hit for planning…

    What do you mean hit for planning. Some farmers dont want to fence off the Hills some do. To me it should be up to the shareholders Who manage the Hills. Not à walking group.


  • #17
    Qualitymark
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    Conmaicne Mara wrote: »
    Apart from National Parks, Ireland doesn't own the hills. Private individuals, be they part of a commonage or parcel owners do.

    Interesting. So the roads through the mountains, the electricity, the phone lines, should be paid for by the landowners?


  • #18
    who the fug
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    Qualitymark wrote: »
    Interesting. So the roads through the mountains, the electricity, the phone lines, should be paid for by the landowners?


    Phone , some farmer has at one time had to pay for those poles to come up to a remote area , electricity was covered by the rural electrification scheme back in the sixties, but any new connection you will


  • #19
    Conmaicne Mara
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    Qualitymark wrote: »
    Interesting. So the roads through the mountains, the electricity, the phone lines, should be paid for by the landowners?

    I'm paying €30,000 for banks I've never had a loan out in my life, that entitles me as much to walk into their vault as it does you to tell anyone what to do with their land.

    If you want to own land, buy it.


  • #20
    Qualitymark
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    supersean1999 wrote: »
    What do you mean hit for planning. Some farmers dont want to fence off the Hills some do. To me it should be up to the shareholders Who manage the Hills. Not à walking group.

    If you read the letter to The Irish Times in the original post you'll see.


  • #21
    Conmaicne Mara
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    supersean1999 wrote: »
    What do you mean hit for planning. Some farmers dont want to fence off the Hills some do. To me it should be up to the shareholders Who manage the Hills. Not à walking group.

    Exactly, certain elements are achieving on thing no doubt, pissing off the land owners.


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