Hdmi to Scart adaptor

danjo-xx

Not sure where to post this but I have a 5m hdmi cable which I want to connect from an Arivia 120 stb to an old tv with only scart connection.

What is the cheapest way of doing this..(Not interested in high quality or anything like that.)

Would a 5m scart lead be the cheapest way, I saw one for £2.49 on ebay.....

or as I have a 5m hdmi cable, a hdmi to scart adaptor, but cant find anything cheap out there.

any other workarounds.

Jpmarn

Has the stb any phono type video and audio outputs? If so it easy get a phono to scart. Try PCWorld, maplins or any good tv hifi store.

fat-tony

The Ariva 120 has a SCART socket. Buy a 5m SCART lead and use it. HDMI is digital, SCART is analogue.

Digifriendly

The Cush wrote: »

SCART to HDMI converter e.g. http://www.cables.ie/scart-to-hdmi-converter.html

That's very expensive to say the least.

fat-tony

Dang it guys - the OP has a TV with a SCART socket. The Ariva 120 has a SCART socket. 5m SCART cable - couple of quid, no phono required.

...or have I missed something?

danjo-xx

fat-tony wrote: »

Dang it guys - the OP has a TV with a SCART socket. The Ariva 120 has a SCART socket. 5m SCART cable - couple of quid, no phono required.

...or have I missed something?

I got a 5m scart lead in Soundstore, €12 plain metal terminals tried to connect to tv but it is reluctant to go in and feels rough as hell.

Remember the same problems with shorter leads of this type also....

Will have another go over the weekend.

Same number of terminals, (20 I think) as the short gold plated scart lead I used in other room with it.

watty

Gold are the cheap nasty SCART plugs.

Good expensive ones have really fat cable and tinned metal shell, tinned pins and with a light folding plastic cover.

Odd but true.

Almost all fall off, as it's a stupid French design that was only meant to stop Imports of TVs to France as they made (Peritel / SCART) Mandatory. Instead everyone used them except USA, which persisted in using a connector designed for 78 rpm record players for everything including speakers to HD.

danjo-xx

Scart leads are a rite curse...


Would any pc monitor with a hdmi conn work with a set top box on a simple plug n play basis:D

Yuptizme

A related matter. I have a wall mounted TV with a scart lead built into the wall. Is it possible to use this built in cable to carry a HDMI Signal using a HDMI to SCART cable at both ends of the built in scart cable?

Thanks

Hendrik Verhoeven

To send uncompressed digital HD video over scart cable?

Scart cable is different architecture to HDMI cable. HDMI is twisted-pair data cable, scart would not support the bandwidth needed for HD video, even if there was some kind of converter you could use at each end.

SpaceTime

SCART is from the analogue world. HDMI is completely digital, you can't just use an adaptor to connect one to the other. You have to convert digital video to analogue RGB or composite and back again.

SpaceTime

watty wrote: »

Gold are the cheap nasty SCART plugs.

Good expensive ones have really fat cable and tinned metal shell, tinned pins and with a light folding plastic cover.

Odd but true.

Almost all fall off, as it's a stupid French design that was only meant to stop Imports of TVs to France as they made (Peritel / SCART) Mandatory. Instead everyone used them except USA, which persisted in using a connector designed for 78 rpm record players for everything including speakers to HD.

Good quality SCART connectors are another league entirely. The problem is that many of the ones sold / given away free were utter rubbish.

Yuptizme

Thanks for clarifying the position with scart cables. I half knew it wouldn't be that easy - unfortunately.

Michael.

Hendrik Verhoeven

You might not be able to pull a HDMI cable into the wall, but HDMI signals can be sent over network cable, like cat. 6, which you could probably use the scart cable to pull this in. Devices known as "baluns" are used where the HDMI cable connects to cat. 6. Using 2 network cables appears to be the more reliable method, but 1 cable can be used.

Yuptizme

`Thanks, unfortunately it is cemented into the wall. It is not in a conduit. There's about two feet protruding at both ends which works fine for the scart connection but the cable is not removable without hacking away at the plaster.

fat-tony

If you're stuck with this then your only option is analogue connectors at both ends. You can use RCA (phono) leads with SCART adapters to carry audio and video from sender to receiver. Not brilliant quality but best you can do in the circumstances. HDMI not an option unless you convert from digital to analogue and back (expensive and no point really).

watty

You need TWO Cat5e cables for HDMI and NO baluns. Baluns are only needed for analogue like SVGA over Cat5e.

The high speed signals (3 data and clock) on HDMI are already twisted pair almost identical to Cat5e twisted pairs. Since Cat5e has only 4 pairs and the high speed part of HDMI is 4 x twisted pairs you need a 2nd Cat5e for all the other HDMI connections.

This works
http://www.techtir.ie/howto/hdmi-via-cat5-cable

A single Cat5e cable won't work.


If a there is a FULLY wired SCART cable, it may be possible to put the 3 high speed data and clock over the R, G, B and Composite connections (using Baluns as proper SCART has 5 x video coax and HDMI data is twisted pair).
SCART
http://pinouts.ru/Home/Scart_pinout.shtml
Should have 5 x 75 Ohm high speed coax connections for Video
4 x screened audio coax
pin 8 for Off / Select & WS (unscreened) mode on TV
pin 16 is usually wired too to automatically select RGB mode on TV
Pins 10 and 12 usually not wired
The others are all ground return
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART