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What's high mileage on a 07 vw passat tdi

  • 12-11-2013 02:23PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭


    130,000 miles on a vw passat 2.0 tdi 170bhp, is this high for vw passat.... the car is up in the north so would the " its all motorway miles" not apply the same as it would if it was coming from england?? also are this newer models troublesome especially the 2.0 range??

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    the "its all motorway miles" is only the word of the seller.

    its a 2007 vehicle with 130,000miles …thats 208,000km

    average per year …approx 35,000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    35 k kilometers per year is not high miles for a repmobile diesel.
    There are two ways of interpreting the miles question.

    -Is it high enough to warrant a lower price? - Yes, as the resale when you sell it on will also be affected by the high miles

    -Is it high enough to cause concern? - No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    Its not excessively high. Don't focus too much on the mileage but rather the condition and service history of it. I have seen 150K miles cars in better shape than 50K miles cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    According to my digging, its actually only slightly above average. And a mile is a mile, irrelevant really how it was done as you have no idea of verifying it. The mechanical condition and verifiable history of the car is what is important, not what is on the dash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭thenightrider


    That is not high millage its only 21 k miles a year i do double that a year. But do see if you can get the car cheaper as im sure there are others out there with lower mileage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭tomgaa


    i was geneerally going off what a few people i work with said, that the miles were very high.... but that also uk cars are hard to find with low mileage.

    and as was said if its serviced regularly there shouldnt be any problems...... bar trying to sell it on again!!

    i suppose im just in the mind set that with the higher mileage im worried about problems that come with that!!

    But thanks for all opinions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    tomgaa wrote: »
    i was geneerally going off what a few people i work with said, that the miles were very high.... but that also uk cars are hard to find with low mileage.

    and as was said if its serviced regularly there shouldnt be any problems...... bar trying to sell it on again!!

    i suppose im just in the mind set that with the higher mileage im worried about problems that come with that!!

    But thanks for all opinions

    As far as I know - being 07 - shes the PD engine rather then the later commonrail.

    Thing to be aware off is that if shes the PD engine - these were recalled about a year or so ago - for injector issues.

    Heres a Uk link about the recall


    http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1088107

    This work should have been done - so check that it has.

    It was a big issue when it happened first (this injector issue) - but once the recall work has been done - its much less of an issue now imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,487 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Some versions of that 2.0 TDi engine also suffered from oil pump balance shaft failure but it depends on the engine code as it doesn't happen to all of them.

    Mileage is not crazy for the year but in typical Irish fashion you will be told by the ill-informed that anything over 100k miles will explode. This is one of the reasons car clocking is big business here, too many judging a car by what the odometer says instead of judging by condition and service history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    tomgaa wrote: »
    i was geneerally going off what a few people i work with said, that the miles were very high.... but that also uk cars are hard to find with low mileage.

    and as was said if its serviced regularly there shouldnt be any problems...... bar trying to sell it on again!!

    i suppose im just in the mind set that with the higher mileage im worried about problems that come with that!!

    But thanks for all opinions

    Being honest I'd be more wary of a diesel that was doing < 20k miles a year than one doing more than that. Doing short trips in a diesel is one way to kill it and a lot of people are figuring that out now after several years of ownership.

    If it's regularly serviced and has receipts to prove it then the only problem would be resale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭tomgaa


    ok then by the sounds of it my only worry should be that the fact this model can have certain faults?!?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,487 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Is there any service history or receipts for any work done on it already? Timing belt change on these is every 60k miles or 5 years. So at 130k miles it should have been changed recently or is due to be changed.

    Make sure there is no vibration coming through the clutch as this could indicate that the flywheel is on the way out, a pretty common problem on most modern diesels. Also make sure that the gear changes are smooth and it is not sticking or difficult to find a gear and VAG gearboxes of that era are not the most resilient.

    Other common problems on the Passat of that vintage is the electronic parking brake, make sure it works properly as the module is known to give problems back then. Should have been replaced at this stage but you never know for sure.

    Common wear and tear items include suspension, track rods and ball joints are known to fail regularly due to the quality of our roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    tomgaa wrote: »
    i was geneerally going off what a few people i work with said, that the miles were very high.... but that also uk cars are hard to find with low mileage.

    and as was said if its serviced regularly there shouldnt be any problems...... bar trying to sell it on again!!

    i suppose im just in the mind set that with the higher mileage im worried about problems that come with that!!

    But thanks for all opinions

    Anything over 100,000 miles is regarded as for the scrapheap in this country. Its a uniqueness to Ireland that is a remnant of our history of crappy roads and cheaping it up servicewise. If the car has a full service history and all seems to be in order, then it probably is. Those cars (generally) laugh at 200,000 miles on the clock, when maintained properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭tomgaa


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Is there any service history or receipts for any work done on it already? Timing belt change on these is every 60k miles or 5 years. So at 130k miles it should have been changed recently or is due to be changed.

    i havent gone to see the car yet but hopefully the weekend, but yes a full service history comes with the car!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭FrontDoor


    07 Passats in good nick seem to be going for 6-7k privately. By good nick, I mean service history, <180,000 km, etc.

    Are these a good proposition? Would they do the same again handy enough? I know they are on the higher tax, but they seem to be considerably cheaper than similar 08 s.

    I'm looking for a used diesel car and driven daft with it.

    6.5k 2007 Passat - great car, high tax

    8-9k 2008 Focus - Good car, very low tax. No great saving in importing one

    7-8k 2008/9 308 HDI - same engine as Focus. Very low tax. Value when importing. God knows what lurks underneath ...

    Any other ideas for that sort of budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Once its had a timing belt done and the tyres are good it should be no problem. VAG Diesels are capable of endless miles when maintained correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭tomgaa


    guys this is the spec that comes with the car, im just wondering whats everyones gut reaction to it!!!

    Features:
    Trip computer, Drivers airbag, Passenger airbag, Side airbags, Anti-lock Braking System, Traction control, Isofix child seat anchor points, Remote central locking, Alarm, Immobiliser, Electrically adjustable drivers seat, Lumbar support, Front electric windows, Rear electric windows, Air conditioning, Climate control, Folding rear seats, Rear armrest, Sports seats, Alloy wheels, Cloth seat trim, Full size spare wheel, Front fog lights, Body coloured bumpers, Electric door mirrors, Heated door mirrors, Radio/CD, Front armrest.

    2007 VW PASSAT TDI SPORT 170 BHP 6 SPEED
    130K UK MOTORWAY MILES WITH FULL SERVICE HISTORY,
    HPI CLEAR WITH FULL PRINT OUT,2 KEYS 4 E/W, E/M
    A/C, O/B/C, CD PLAYER, SPORTS INTERIOR,
    ALLOY WHEELS,LOW INSURANCE GROUP
    CHEAP ROAD TAX EASY ON FUEL, DRIVING PERFECT EVERYTHING WORK 100%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,487 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Seems pretty average spec, nothing spectacular to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭Moanin


    The road tax isn't cheap on these. Its €710 per annum unless you buy from 2008 onwards.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,487 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The car is being sold and advertised in the North where the reference to cheaper tax is being made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,487 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Is this the car OP?

    http://www.usedcarsni.com/2007-Volkswagen-Passat-SPORT-TDI-Newry-120839398

    That car is costing about €5700 in euros to buy. VRT is about another €2000 so you are looking at €7700 or thereabouts to land and register it down here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭tomgaa


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Is this the car OP?

    http://www.usedcarsni.com/2007-Volkswagen-Passat-SPORT-TDI-Newry-120839398

    That car is costing about €5700 in euros to buy. VRT is about another €2000 so you are looking at €7700 or thereabouts to land and register it down here.

    ya thats it, checked the vrt its €2300, from what everyone has said the mileage doesnt bother me now, just a few things have popped up on the net about problems with the gear box and injectors with that model, but like anything if your lookin for problems with a car you will find them on the net!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,487 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Just make sure to ring the garages that serviced it and see that it correlates with what the service book says especially around timing belts, etc. 130k miles is just over the mileage that the belt should be due another change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭tomgaa


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Just make sure to ring the garages that serviced it and see that it correlates with what the service book says especially around timing belts, etc. 130k miles is just over the mileage that the belt should be due another change.

    Can an ecu/ecm check be done on the car or is it worth it, will it let you know if the car may give trouble down the line?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Foxhole Norman


    I wouldn't consider that to be high mileage. My dad's last company car, a 2009 1.9TDi Superb had over 210,000km on it after three years and was easily sold for about 11k earlier on this year. If the car was a company car than it more than likely is in better condition than most other cars with that kind of mileage as they usually get what they need when they need it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Caliden wrote: »
    Being honest I'd be more wary of a diesel that was doing < 20k miles a year than one doing more than that. Doing short trips in a diesel is one way to kill it and a lot of people are figuring that out now after several years of ownership.
    Nope short trips themselves won't "kill" a diesel. It's where you do those trips (short or long) that matters.

    For instance a car doing 10k a year on a motorway is far less likely to give mileage related issues compared to a car doing the same or more miles in a stop/start urban environment.


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