HSE targeted voluntary redundancy scheme 2014

mydiscworld

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1106/484982-hse-redundancy/

The HSE is to introduce a targeted voluntary redundancy scheme in January as part of a set of measures aimed at securing maximum implementation of the Haddington Road Agreement.

In a letter today to HSE managers, Director of Human Resources Barry O'Brien notes that the Haddington Road Agreement increased the standard working hours of public servants.

He says that the effective usage of the additional working hours provided for is central to the achievement of the savings to which the parties to the HRA have committed.

He says that at this stage, increased action is now required to accelerate
the delivery of further reductions in the current overtime and agency costs.

He warns that each manager must maximise the savings available from the HRA before any other consideration affecting the ongoing delivery of services.

He says that the targeted Voluntary Redundancy Scheme will allow services to restructure and reconfigure while at the same time delivering essential cost savings and a further reduction in head count.

However, the letter does not set out a target number of redundancies.

I wonder will the regional managers place a blanket ban on all voluntary redundancies, like they did with the career break scheme in early 2013.

Rightwing

What a joke these voluntary redundancies are. In a few months they'll then have to hire more due to 'unforseen circumstances'.

Just sack the dead wood and save us all money.

woodoo

Sounds like a good idea.

touts

I'll bet they will have to hire extra accountants and administrators to help with the paperwork from all the redundancies of frontline staff such as Doctors and Nurses.

allthedoyles

Does anyone have an update on the redundancy negotiations ?

eireon

would they have voluntary redundancy for nurses? if i offer my self for E40k-50k only..

im sure theyll be able to get it back in 3-4 yrs if they replace me with a newly graduate nurse as their pay is less 1000K+ a month and still be lower after 4 yrs.

why cant they see this.. plus im a foreigner if they let us go then they can hire new irish nurse giving back job to irish people and then most probably we will leave and then less children allowance and all sort of allowance.

anyway if not we'll just have to continue working.

just a thought

Dozen Wicked Words

eireon wrote: »

would they have voluntary redundancy for nurses? if i offer my self for E40k-50k only..

im sure theyll be able to get it back in 3-4 yrs if they replace me with a newly graduate nurse as their pay is less 1000K+ a month and still be lower after 4 yrs.

why cant they see this.. plus im a foreigner if they let us go then they can hire new irish nurse giving back job to irish people and then most probably we will leave and then less children allowance and all sort of allowance.

anyway if not we'll just have to continue working.

just a thought

There's hardly any newly qualified Irish nurses going to be about to hire, they are all off to the UK or Australia. None of them will work for the reduced rate the government tried to force on them. So now the government are paying agencies for nurses instead which is obviously more expensive than if they had given the newly qualifieds the correct contract.

So I doubt they will be in position to allow any nurse to take redundancy, and wouldn't be surprised in next year if they aren't crying nursing shortage and looking again to India and the Philippines to get us out of a mess.

eireon

But they allow nurses to go on career break 12k a year so its 48k in 4 yrs... if they can afford that surely they can afford a voluntary redundancy if u only ask 40 -50k .. esp in doing so saves in lots of allowances monthly also save from the resources that the family uses while they are here.. not that we cannot stand living here ireland is a great country and without her we wont have what we have now... im just saying it will benefit both side if they'will consider it . I know others like alot more thats why its impossible esp the native but for a foreign nurse and willing that would be fine.

muddled1

I can't imagine a Business Manager or GM admitting that a post is surplus to requirements. I work in the HSE and at clerical level we get moved around so no one has their "own" job. I'm beginning to think this is as bogus as the ICB was. Also posts are advertised on publicjobs.ie for temp clerical staff.

chopper6

eireon wrote: »

But they allow nurses to go on career break 12k a year so its 48k in 4 yrs... .

Paid career breaks are long finished with....it was a govt scheme approx 5 years ago.

You cannot go on a 4 year career break no matter what.

Saudi Arabia will pay nurses up to 10k per month tax free.

The idea of anybody choosing to avail of such a (fictional) offer for the privelige of listening to rants from irish people about how good they have it here,frankly boggles the mind.

muddled1

chopper6 wrote: »

Paid career breaks are long finished with....it was a govt scheme approx 5 years ago.

You cannot go on a 4 year career break no matter what.

Saudi Arabia will pay nurses up to 10k per month tax free.

The idea of anybody choosing to avail of such a (fictional) offer for the privelige of listening to rants from irish people about how good they have it here,frankly boggles the mind.

There was another ICB in 2013 http://www.hse.ie/eng/staff/Benefits_Services/careerbreak/[/
though this thread is about VRS2014. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056974242

MadamX

This link on the PNA website outlines what's happening quite well. Seems it's not something staff can actually apply for. Word on the grapevine in my workplace is that certain people are getting the 'tap on the shoulder' http://pna.ie/images/vrs.pdf

muddled1

Agreed Madam X. I wonder what happens if those who get the tap on the shoulder say "no thanks".

MadamX

muddled1 wrote: »

I can't imagine a Business Manager or GM admitting that a post is surplus to requirements. I work in the HSE and at clerical level we get moved around so no one has their "own" job. I'm beginning to think this is as bogus as the ICB was. Also posts are advertised on publicjobs.ie for temp clerical staff.

How're you coping with the moving around? Causing me serious problems.

muddled1

MadamX wrote: »

How're you coping with the moving around? Causing me serious problems.

Regretfully the AA where I work had singled me out and I was the one and only (more or less) CO being moved from pillar to post at a moments' notice (without any training) for the better part of 12 years. She has recently included everybody else. I have always found it difficult, especially on the days when I sit at one desk, get a phone call and have to move. TBH it has caused me a lot of depression, anxiety and general bad feeling - I have never worked for an employer with such a complete lack of respect for some of their employees. I am a flexible worker, but this goes beyond reasonable; I don't think I will ever get used to the bad management. I pray for that tap on the shoulder.

MadamX

This sounds frighteningly familiar. The lack if training and complete disregard for staff health issues can only be called negligence. PM me if you ever need to let off steam.

muddled1

MadamX wrote: »

This sounds frighteningly familiar. The lack if training and complete disregard for staff health issues can only be called negligence. PM me if you ever need to let off steam.

Likewise feel free to PM me.