NCT

Bogjumper

Did you know that the NCT test has addons over and above that required
by the EU law that spawned it -than for instance the UK MOT. Did you know that the politicians/Commissions at the EU have spent well over two years to harmonise that EU wide law so that if you have an MOT it is recognised by
the NCT and vice versa and still nothing has been achieved.
No wonder we have 50% test failures yearly. Its a money making racket the profits of which leave the country. Now we have the Road Safety Authority
creating more expense and time waste for everyone with this centralised licence issue. A postmaster said the post offices already handle Passports why not driving licences with 174 offices versus 24 countrywide. Empires??
In a country that has poor local bus services it is ridiculous that these measures are introduced. But I forgot - the EU decrees it.- all bow

Toyotafanboi

i think this forum is vastly in favour of the NCT in its current form (waiting times aside).

Faith+1

Bogjumper wrote: »

A postmaster said the post offices already handle Passports
why not driving licences with 174 offices versus 24 countrywide. Empires??
Drivers unite.

Completely agree. Nothing surprises me anymore in this kip of a Country.

dantastic

What did you fail the NCT on?
Broken tail light?
Uneven brakes?

Interslice

Bogjumper wrote: »

Did you know that the NCT test has addons over and above that required
by the EU law that spawned it -than for instance the UK MOT. Did you know that the politicians/Commissions at the EU have spent well over two years to harmonise that EU wide law so that if you have an MOT it is recognised by
the NCT and vice versa and still nothing has been achieved.
No wonder we have 50% test failures yearly. Its a money making racket the profits of which leave the country. Now we have the Road Safety Authority
creating more expense and time waste for everyone with this centralised licence issue. A postmaster said the post offices already handle Passports why not driving licences with 174 offices versus 24 countrywide. Empires??
In a country that has poor local bus services it is ridiculous that these measures are introduced. But I forgot - the EU decrees it.- all bow

I'll failed the DOE due to a rear brake problem resulting in a fail on brake effort. It would of passed in the UK due to a lower standard there(50% to pass there, 55% here). I got 51.5%. To give you an idea of what it should be the previous DOE I got 75%. Would you rather I passed?

CiniO

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

i think this forum is vastly in favour of the NCT in its current form (waiting times aside).

And validity date aside

biko

dantastic wrote: »

What did you fail the NCT on?
Broken tail light?
Uneven brakes?

Whenever I see a "money racket" tread this is what I think too.

On topic, comparing NCT to MOT isn't fair as MOT isn't up to EU standards whereas NCT is.

http://www.transport.ie/upload/general/7750-0.pdf

Overall, from the high-level comparison with car testing regimes in other countries, it appears that the scope and content of the test in Ireland is generally in line with good international practice. In some aspects the Irish system has been innovative in comparison with others, with particular focus on the level of automation, use of SMS and modern technologies, technical solutions in light beam testing and the like, as well as operationally having a
supervisory and quality review body, independent of the testing authority.

www.motester.co.uk/mot-general-information/mot-information-for-motorists/european-comparisons

Training is a specific area where the British MOT Test falls behind our European neighbours with the Testing authorities (VOSA) offering no formal training as such, but merely providing just a two day course which, to quote their own policy is "...to calibrate skills". In other countries there are more formal and stringent arrangements to train vehicle Testing staff. In Germany, for example, Testers require a year of training.

Britain is also well behind other countries in Europe when it comes to using automated equipment and modern electronic technology. A partially computerised system has already been installed into all Testing Stations in Britain, but in terms of fully utilising the most modern equipment coupled with modern computer technology this will fall well short of systems which have been in use for some time in many other EU States, even the Republic of Ireland.

Lol.

CiniO

biko wrote: »

Whenever I see a "money racket" tread this is what I think too.

On topic, comparing NCT to MOT isn't fair as MOT isn't up to EU standards whereas NCT is.

http://www.transport.ie/upload/general/7750-0.pdf


www.motester.co.uk/mot-general-information/mot-information-for-motorists/european-comparisons

Lol.

Even the Republic of Ireland.
What were they thinking.....


Anyway.
Are technical requirements different in UK MOT to NCT, or is it just organisational difference? Worse staff training, bigger field for corruption, etc in UK?

biko

CiniO wrote: »

Are technical requirements different in UK MOT to NCT, or is it just organisational difference? Worse staff training, bigger field for corruption, etc in UK?

Well there's NI MOT and GB MOT.
In NI there is a government body that does the MOT, the DVA.
In GB anyone with a garage can apply. You need a 2 day course first. This is what I believe is open to corruption.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/top-stories/leeds-mot-scam-ex-bodyguard-was-behind-con-1-2194231

Roobik Mirzabegi set up garages in Beeston and Middleton in an operation dubbed Dial an MOT with dubious Leeds car dealers.
The scam is thought to have netted millions of pounds and put thousands of dangerous untested vehicles on the road.
In the course of 13 years Mirzabegi drew staff including MOT nominated testers into a web of corruption and deceit which put lives at risk and led to motorists buying faulty overpriced cars.

This is the MOT manual if you want to have a look.
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/bl/mottestingmanualsandguides/mottestingmanualsandguides.htm