Bad luck here

supersean1999

Bad luck here. Had charolais out with ewes and his leg got tender and swollen. So took him to vet.and i put texel ram lamb in for a week. And took him away after 7 days when charolais leg seemed perfect. I Also wanted to feed the texel up for a week before he goes with 20 hill ewes. Anyway the charolais is bad again. And i cant Let the lleyn out because some are his hoggets. A réal pain in the arse replacing rams now. Oh the joys

eire23

supersean1999 wrote: »

Bad luck here. Had charolais out with ewes and his leg got tender and swollen. So took him to vet.and i put texel ram lamb in for a week. And took him away after 7 days when charolais leg seemed perfect. I Also wanted to feed the texel up for a week before he goes with 20 hill ewes. Anyway the charolais is bad again. And i cant Let the lleyn out because some are his hoggets. A réal pain in the arse replacing rams now. Oh the joys

Always the way isn't it. The ram mightn't be lame all year and sure enough when ya let him out with the ewes he goes lame!

supersean1999

eire23 wrote: »

Always the way isn't it. The ram mightn't be lame all year and sure enough when ya let him out with the ewes he goes lame!

A real sickener. Ill buy à different one and ill use charolais in 3-4 weeks to get repeats. At least the last of the lambs will be out of the best ram.i did not mean this to be à thread :-)

Username John

Same thing happened here. One of my hampshires hurt his leg a few days in, I took him out as I thought he would only be bothering the remaining lad. (I know he had a bit if a dodgy leg, but I said I'd chance him, bad decision)

Picked up a Lleyn lamb ram yesterday, so will put him in. Nice lamb, but smaller than I'd like, but should do the job fine.

The advice I got is to take out the hampshire ram I have after 16 days (one full cycle) and put in the Lleyn.
Reason being that they would defo fight now, and the big Hampshire might only damage the smaller Lleyn...

Thoughts?

What are you planning Sean?

Conmaicne Mara

I'd never have two rams in with ewes at the same time TBH.

sea12

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I'd never have two rams in with ewes at the same time TBH.

I would if they were use to each other and were ith each other before going out. But I wouldn't let them out together if they were strangers.

Username John

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I'd never have two rams in with ewes at the same time TBH.

I usually have two in, but they would have been together all season so they'd 'know each other' so to speak...

Username John

sea12 wrote: »

I would if they were use to each other and were ith each other before going out. But I wouldn't let them out together if they were strangers.

Hi Sea,

Yeah, that seems to be the consensus so far. Swap one for the other, to cleanup so to speak.

supersean1999

Username John wrote: »

Same thing happened here. One of my hampshires hurt his leg a few days in, I took him out as I thought he would only be bothering the remaining lad. (I know he had a bit if a dodgy leg, but I said I'd chance him, bad decision)

Picked up a Lleyn lamb ram yesterday, so will put him in. Nice lamb, but smaller than I'd like, but should do the job fine.

The advice I got is to take out the hampshire ram I have after 16 days (one full cycle) and put in the Lleyn.
Reason being that they would defo fight now, and the big Hampshire might only damage the smaller Lleyn...

Thoughts?

What are you planning Sean?

Well id be nervous adding à new ram in the season. I rarely mix rams only mountain ones. But they Would have à lot of ewes to Tip and a good run of 30 acres so iv never had trouble. Id Keep the lleyn seperate. One wallop and Its bye bye

supersean1999

Username John wrote: »

Same thing happened here. One of my hampshires hurt his leg a few days in, I took him out as I thought he would only be bothering the remaining lad. (I know he had a bit if a dodgy leg, but I said I'd chance him, bad decision)

Picked up a Lleyn lamb ram yesterday, so will put him in. Nice lamb, but smaller than I'd like, but should do the job fine.

The advice I got is to take out the hampshire ram I have after 16 days (one full cycle) and put in the Lleyn.
Reason being that they would defo fight now, and the big Hampshire might only damage the smaller Lleyn...

Thoughts?

What are you planning Sean?

Well id be nervous adding à new ram in the season. I rarely mix rams only mountain ones. But they Would have à lot of ewes to Tip and a good run of 30 acres so iv never had trouble. Id Keep the lleyn seperate. One wallop and Its bye bye

supersean1999

Im going to buy an aged ram in the mart one that has not too much work Done. Or preferably none. Not à clue What breed ill get as long as he is right . It could be à charolais. Texel. Suff. I cant be choosy now B-)

supersean1999

Im going to buy an aged ram in the mart one that has not too much work Done. Or preferably none. Not à clue What breed ill get as long as he is right . It could be à charolais. Texel. Suff. I cant be choosy now B-)

Donnielighto

We generally keep all our rams together year round. Only trouble we ever had was introducing a new lad. Took out a charlaois on his first day, no ewes around. We did have an old suffolk a few years ago who tipped nearly every ewe he could on the land over 3/4 weeks dropped dead within 24 hours of being seperated then. Great way to go tbf.

AntrimGlens

had a five yo suffolk in with another suffolk ram and found him lying stiff yesterday. He had been in good form in the run up to tupping, was coming to the trough every day for meal but last saturday when i went to put him out he was off form, so gave him 20ml alamycin LA but he never even sniffed after a single ewe when he went to the field. Thankfully i had bought a spare of a neighbour a couple of weeks before hand to give me cover in case one went lame. He bred me some lovely ewe lambs too and good skins. Had to split the ewes yesterday as didn't want to put the new ram in with the other one as it would probably been a disaster.

supersean1999

Sorry for double posts. I promise i dont have the Worst stutter ever :-)

eire23

if were puting a new ram in with a group here, we do pen them in together in a really tight space for a good while. They dont be long getting used to each other then, they do a bit of dunting and puckin but cant get a run at each other so do no harm

Username John

eire23 wrote: »

if were puting a new ram in with a group here, we do pen them in together in a really tight space for a good while. They dont be long getting used to each other then, they do a bit of dunting and puckin but cant get a run at each other so do no harm

I was half thinking of that, but was warned against it, as another poster above said - one bad puck and it could all go very wrong. Especially when I have one big and one small ram...

I am edging more towards swapping them out, and seeing what happens.

eire23

Username John wrote: »

I was half thinking of that, but was warned against it, as another poster above said - one bad puck and it could all go very wrong. Especially when I have one big and one small ram...

I am edging more towards swapping them out, and seeing what happens.

True that john. i wouldnt do it with a ram lamb, as ya said he would be a bit small for taking a puck or two and then if something happened him ya would be back to square one!

tabby aspreme

I have a lleyn and a texel who never met until I let them in with the ewes and they pay no heed to each other , then I have two more texels with another batch who are together for 3 years and they were knocking the shi* out of each other and had to be seperated so you never know with rams

gazahayes

I have a lleyn hogget and a charollais ram lamb in with ewe lambs they came from the same farm and were always together so just left them. The lamb will get an odd shot off the lleyn if he's near enough to him. Have them out 2 weeks last Saturday and changed the raddle then as I wouldn't have time during the week. So far think there's only 5 or 6 left to be tipped just have to Wait for repeats.

tabby aspreme

Anyone else notice that day 15-16 in the first heat cycle very few ewes in heat and that it gets busy again on day 17-18, and you get a corresponding break during lambing

tabby aspreme

gazahayes wrote: »

I have a lleyn hogget and a charollais ram lamb in with ewe lambs they came from the same farm and were always together so just left them. The lamb will get an odd shot off the lleyn if he's near enough to him.

I think the lleyn are that keen to cover ewes that they don't bother about anything else

eorna

happened to me a few years back..one of 2 rams dead...got a ram lamb and went from trailer to field full of ewes with other lad...was no problem as everybody knew who was the boss and at the same time he was there picking up the pieces..worked well for me that time..just a suggestion....

supersean1999

Good décent 3yr old texel bought .

supersean1999

Good décent 3yr old texel bought .

sea12

supersean1999 wrote: »

Good décent 3yr old texel bought .

Did u buy it in the mart Sean or private

supersean1999

sea12 wrote: »

Did u buy it in the mart Sean or private

Private. Few miles from home. And trustworthy man.

sea12

supersean1999 wrote: »

Private. Few miles from home. And trustworthy man.

Best of luck with him. Personally never a fan of the Texal due to a couple of years of hard lambing but they are lovely lambs for fattening.

supersean1999

sea12 wrote: »

Best of luck with him. Personally never a fan of the Texal due to a couple of years of hard lambing but they are lovely lambs for fattening.

Thanks.

supersean1999

sea12 wrote: »

Best of luck with him. Personally never a fan of the Texal due to a couple of years of hard lambing but they are lovely lambs for fattening.

Thanks.