Economy - Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDI or Audi A3 1.9 TDI?

fret_wimp2

My old 2001 1.0L petrol is starting to feel its age and its time to upgrade.
Initially i was going for all economy, forgoing any style/looks.

I was aiming for a 2010 kia ceed 1.6 CDRi ecoDynamics, which gets roughly 64MPG, as far as the internet tells me.

But recently i had a spin in an A3 (2008) and i really liked it. really really liked it!
Internet says that they are pretty economical, with auto trader listing it as 48mpg in urban usage.


Both Audi A3 2008 & Kia Ceed 2010 are roughly in the same price range, 12k ish.

So my questions are:

-Realistically, based on real world usage, is the Kia really that much more economical than the Audi?

-In the long term, will I end up paying much more (repair etc) for a slightly older audi over a kia ceed?

colm_mcm

The 64mpg is best case scenario. The 1.9 is old tech which is good in a way, the kia is more modern but I reckon that engine is best in class for reliability.
The 1.9 is pretty tractory sounding but is far nicer inside. Look at the i30 as well as its basically the same thing as the ceed but the interior is a bit nicer.

I wouldn't get too excited by the ecodynamics. It means you only get 89hp. It also gets stop/start which I'm not totally sold on in real life.
The uk ecodynamics comes in trim level 2 only IIRC. I'd aim for a 115hp level 3 tbh.

Scottie99

There's a 7 year warranty on the Kia?

colm_mcm

There is, with a mileage limit (100000m/160000km)

fret_wimp2

Scottie99 wrote: »

There's a 7 year warranty on the Kia?

7 Year limited warranty, or 150k km, whichever comes first. This does not cover standard usage wear and tear. Im not sure exactly where the line is drawn

On a 2010 model, id prob only get 3.5 or less of that so although its nice, its not a deciding factor just yet.

colm_mcm

We claimed a few bits on the Hyundai uk 5 year warranty (3 years for the equivelant Irish one) those things were a seatbelt buckle, tyre pressure sensor and a piece of handbrake trim.
No wear and tear stuff went wrong, but I wouldn't like to have seen the bill for these little finicky things. IMO the few years warranty on the kia are invaluable in case something serious went wrong.
I wouldn't expect them to cover bulbs, clutches, bushings etc as they're wear and tear items.

Deco99

not too sure bout mpg but i know ceed and it does 4.8l/100km which is pretty close to the 4.7 advertised for mixed driving. servicing on kia's would be about 100/150 roughly for same thing than an audi if you going to dealer garage.


if you're motivation is economy and cost long term,only winner is ceed.

Casati

colm_mcm wrote: »

We claimed a few bits on the Hyundai uk 5 year warranty (3 years for the equivelant Irish one) those things were a seatbelt buckle, tyre pressure sensor and a piece of handbrake trim.
No wear and tear stuff went wrong, but I wouldn't like to have seen the bill for these little finicky things. IMO the few years warranty on the kia are invaluable in case something serious went wrong.
I wouldn't expect them to cover bulbs, clutches, bushings etc as they're wear and tear items.

Should they cover issues with DPF, EGF and DMF or are these items considered wear and tear items I wonder?

colm_mcm

They cover dpf far as I know, but issues with dpf's on that engine aren't common.
Dmf probably not. Dunno what an egf is

Casati

colm_mcm wrote: »

They cover dpf far as I know, but issues with dpf's on that engine aren't common.
Dmf probably not. Dunno what an egf is

I must have big fingers - meant the EGR

colm_mcm

Ah yeah, would assume that'd be covered anyway.