Bull for heifers

just do it

Well folks a well worn question but I'm going to ask it again anyway. What bull would you recommend for heifers? Is HCA still the bull of choice?

tismesoitis

thinkin of pache 08 meself was €30 a pop diy or so before Dovea got their hands on him now a tenner! He a fine lookin bull with serious maternal scores!!! Still have a few Dubais THZ left in the tank so will use them 1st.

micky mouse

tismesoitis wrote: »

thinkin of pache 08 meself was €30 a pop diy or so before Dovea got their hands on him now a tenner! He a fine lookin bull with serious maternal scores!!! Still have a few Dubais THZ left in the tank so will use them 1st.

Do you know if Dovea have any good ch maternal bulls

just do it

Pacha 08 (PCH) is a serious maternal bull alright on paper, I'd forgotten about him. Have you any calves by him?

Another one I like the look of (on ICBF) is EFZ. I've a few in-calf to him due in Jan.

Richk2012

Pacha is a good maternal bull but i personally dont like the idea of keeping replacements from first calved heifers if you can do it from your cows instead.

I have a few Lim heifers that are getting KJB Lm in December.

towzer2010

just do it wrote: »

Pacha 08 (PCH) is a serious maternal bull alright on paper, I'd forgotten about him. Have you any calves by him?

Another one I like the look of (on ICBF) is EFZ. I've a few in-calf to him due in Jan.

I've a few in calf to efz as well. Interesting to see what are they like. Very happy with GWO calves. All calved unassisted and are growthy and as quiet as lambs.

wool521

anyone use RHF on heifers,what are the like?

just do it

Richk2012 wrote: »

i personally dont like the idea of keeping replacements from first calved heifers if you can do it from your cows instead.

I know what you're saying. However my replacements now have 2 generations of AI breeding whereas the older ladies at best have 1. Therefore I'm happy to bring heifers from these in as replacements.

I'm aiming to have 1 calving period of 9-12 weeks with heifers calving down at 24mo. I plan to use maternal bulls for all first service and terminal sires there after. 2 benefits: 1) replacement heifers will be old enough to come in at ~24mo, 2) as all replacements will be from 1st service my herd fertility should improve over the years.

on the river

just do it wrote: »

Well folks a well worn question but I'm going to ask it again anyway. What bull would you recommend for heifers? Is HCA still the bull of choice?

I would use goulding jumbo king (AA) AND Ardlea Dan (LM). Small at birth but develop quickly into decent animals.

ceannfort

I agree with not keeping heifers calves as replacements as I don't like cows bred from easy calving bulls because from experience they tend to be harder to calve than daughters of harder calving bulls.

just do it

ceannfort wrote: »

I agree with not keeping heifers calves as replacements as I don't like cows bred from easy calving bulls because from experience they tend to be harder to calve than daughters of harder calving bulls.

ICBF gives the daughter's likely calving ability as well a the bull's CD.

onyerbikepat

on the river wrote: »

I would use goulding jumbo king (AA) AND Ardlea Dan (LM). Small at birth but develop quickly into decent animals.

I dont think i'd use ADX on heifers. At 7.8%, he's more of a 'mature cow' type bull.

Bizzum

Dubai THZ is what we went for this year. A few heifers carrying to him, time will tell.
Prior to THZ we used FL22. Nice compact calves, bit of quality to them.......but wild. He's gone now anyway.

essgee268

wool521 wrote: »

anyone use RHF on heifers,what are the like?

used him on few Simmental first calvers for last 2 years all bull calves easily calved with average Gestation and turned into good weanlings sold on a par with older cows calves.

mikeoh

Used KHH (lim) from munster last year with huge success gone to dovea this year and using EBY

micky mouse

Any good aa bulls out there for use on heifers

Richk2012

micky mouse wrote: »

Any good aa bulls out there for use on heifers

Just in the door from calving a heifer that had a GJB Angus .
Handy sized calf .
Cant judge a bull on one calf though