I'm going to prison for 5 years for manslaughter

fortwilliam

I'm not really, but what if I was?
Lets imagine I accidentally killed my friend by carelessly dropping a wardrobe on him..
I have always wondered,

What about my mortgage? Would my house be repossessed?
Loans and credit cards, would they be put on hold until I am out?
Child maintenance, where would that come from?
LPT/Household charge...?

My job, I presume my employer could call this gross misconduct and fire me.

Presume I was the sole earner in my imaginary family, would my wife & kids have to approach social services and possibly be evicted from the house for non payment of rent/mortgage?

My beloved golf club/Church group/boy scout troop, could they refuse me admission on my release?

What other effects would this conviction have ?

Something I have always been curious about.

Mr.David

Get rid of that wardrobe man, its an accident waiting to happen.

KTRIC

fortwilliam wrote: »

What other effects would this conviction have ?

Upon your release you'll find that you can pass a stool a lot easier.

spank_inferno

Well.... in that example you would be unlikely to be sent to prison.

If its a complete non-violent accident, you would be convicted with a suspended sentence.

I'd imagine if you were sent down though all of your affairs pass by default to your next of kin.

Holsten

Nothing is put on hold for you, that's not the way the world works.

You'd be fired, yes they probably would be evicted.

Your imprisonment doesn't really end after you've served your sentence, you will have trouble getting future jobs, and visiting other countries. Our system isn't as bad as say the United States for example, but it's worse than the UK.

Basically, try not to go to prison.

Tzardine

All you would need is a plastic barrel and a bit of Hydrofluoric acid and you would be saved from the bum sechs.

sonny jim bob jones

Loans and Credit Card on hold? Who would foot the bill for that? The bank? The government?

Should have thought about the repercussions before doing the crime

sonny jim bob jones

Strituck wrote: »

All you would need is a plastic barrel and a bit of Hydrofluoric acid and you would be saved from the bum sechs.

Convince them that you have the virus. Might not work if they already have the virus though.

Sir Osis of Liver.

Can you post some pics of your imaginary wife.(purely for research purposes)

shrewd

Yes to all your questions. So basically, you will be f**ked. f**ked financially, emotionally, socially, physically. PHYSICALLY!, OP.

SEPT 23 1989

The chronic heroin addiction you will acquire in prison will take your mind off the silly things like a wife,kids,house and a job

Spring Onion

I think they should change the charge or "manslaughter" to something a little less 'severe'. I mean...only 5 years for "slaughtering a man"...the time doesn't seem to fit the crime.
Instead of the charge of "manslaughter" make it..."accidentally killing a man by <insert action>"

Consider these scenarios by a High court judge;
1) "The OP will do 5 years for MANSLAUGHTER". Can't argue with that leniency your Honour.

2) "The OP will do 5 years for accidentally killing a man by dropping a wardrobe on him". Aw come on, that's a bit harsh your Honour! He didn't mean it!

Auldloon

I work with a guy who's been charged with murder. He's on trial soon actually. I've spoken with him a bit about the implications and it's grim. He expects his legal bill alone to be in the region of 100k. He's like a dead man walking, dreading the thought of years inside with scum who will eat him alive. He's a good guy by the way never been in trouble before but has just been terribly unlucky in this case. Wont say anymore as it could be 2 obvious.

taytobreath

Auldloon wrote: »

I work with a guy who's been charged with murder. He's on trial soon actually. I've spoken with him a bit about the implications and it's grim. He expects his legal bill alone to be in the region of 100k. He's like a dead man walking, dreading the thought of years inside with scum who will eat him alive. He's a good guy by the way never been in trouble before but has just been terribly unlucky in this case. Wont say anymore as it could be 2 obvious.

jesus. Its the family of the murdered person I would feel sorry for.

MonstaMash

fortwilliam wrote: »

What other effects would this conviction have ?
Something I have always been curious about.

Well...your hole would be a lot more pliable upon release

Ed Winchester

Auldloon wrote: »

I work with a guy who's been charged with murder. He's on trial soon actually. I've spoken with him a bit about the implications and it's grim. He expects his legal bill alone to be in the region of 100k. He's like a dead man walking, dreading the thought of years inside with scum who will eat him alive. He's a good guy by the way never been in trouble before but has just been terribly unlucky in this case. Wont say anymore as it could be 2 obvious.

You can't really murder someone through bad luck though can you?

seamus

No, nothing goes on hold for you.

The prison becomes your place of residence and all of your mail, etc, can be directed there. So you can still manage your affairs from prison, but obviously it's very restrictive. In most cases afaik prisoners are advised to give the power of attorney to another individual (like a partner) so that this stuff can be sorted out.

Banks can apply for judgements, etc, in your absence, so all of your debts and everything will move on. Chances are, particularly for normal debts like loans or credit cards, the company will obtain a judgement against you, but upon hearing that you're in prison they will just write it off. You can't pay them back while in prison and your ability to get a job afterwards means you won't pay it back for a long time.

The bank will probably take your house but then write off any shortfall in the mortgage for the same reason. If you have children, then it's very unlikely they will be evicted. The bank will probably take ownership of the house, but your family will be permitted to remain there for quite a long time. If you don't have children and your wife was a sole dependent, then yes she will be evicted when the bank take possession. From your family's perspective it will be as if you had died (though it's even more complicated than that because they don't get to inherit your assets).

If you are separated and paying child maintenance, your childrens' mother could apply for an order which protects a certain % of your assets and has them sold and held in trust for the children. However in general if you're heavily indebted, revenue and the banks will get their money first and your family gets what's left.

Afaik, there are no laws which prevent anyone from discriminating against you because you've been in prison. Employers can refuse you, clubs can refuse you, even retailers can refuse to sell to you. There are programmes which specifically operate to place former convicts into employment, however if you're a good college-educated boy and manage to stay clear of drugs while in prison you probably won't find it that hard to get employment on your release, though you will have to drop down the career ladder about 20 rungs.

theblaqueguy

I can guarantee you one thing if you went to prison OP
Your poo poo would be pushed in if you dropped your bar of soap in the showers

sonny jim bob jones

theblaqueguy wrote: »

I can guarantee you one thing if you went to prison OP
Your poo poo would be pushed in if you dropped your bar of soap in the showers

Let's hope you aren't speaking from experience.

Grayson

Spring Onion wrote: »

I think they should change the charge or "manslaughter" to something a little less 'severe'. I mean...only 5 years for "slaughtering a man"...the time doesn't seem to fit the crime.
Instead of the charge of "manslaughter" make it..."accidentally killing a man by <insert action>"

Consider these scenarios by a High court judge;
1) "The OP will do 5 years for MANSLAUGHTER". Can't argue with that leniency your Honour.

2) "The OP will do 5 years for accidentally killing a man by dropping a wardrobe on him". Aw come on, that's a bit harsh your Honour! He didn't mean it!

Death through misadventure. Always loved that phrase. Sounds like Indianas bullwhip snapped halfway across a chasm

keeponhurling

How thw hell did you kill him with a wardrobe, did you drop it from a height or something? (hypothetically of course)

Alf Veedersane

I got fitted wardrobes put in to avoid the potential for killing anyone.

Sir Osis of Liver.

Auldloon wrote: »

I work with a guy who's been charged with murder. He's on trial soon actually. I've spoken with him a bit about the implications and it's grim. He expects his legal bill alone to be in the region of 100k. He's like a dead man walking, dreading the thought of years inside with scum who will eat him alive. He's a good guy by the way never been in trouble before but has just been terribly unlucky in this case. Wont say anymore as it could be 2 obvious.

Did he drop a wardrobe on someone?