So, when to book in NCT?

Mar4ix

I have a car a while now without NCT, it is 2001 car, so to which date is calculated new NCT ?
Date of First registration is 04-may-2001, and date of registration in Ireland is 19-feb-2001 , so when is best date to book in NCT , to get cert till 2015 ?

Thanks

Anan1

After 04 Feb 2014, if you're happy to take that chance.

Mar4ix

i think it is possible book NCT 3 months before one of these dates , if nct is calculated til date of registration in Ireland, then i could book in after 19 november this year. i just dont know to wich of these two dates they issue cert.

But overall, thats a bit silly calculating nct date till those dates, less hassle would be give a year nct after it passed .

Anan1

Mar4ix wrote: »

i think it is possible book NCT 3 months before one of these dates , if nct is calculated til date of registration in Ireland, then i could book in after 19 november this year. i just dont know to wich of these two dates they issue cert.

Cert is valid for a year from date of first registration, date of importation is irrelevant. Test can be done up to 3 months early.

Mar4ix wrote: »

But overall, thats a bit silly calculating nct date till those dates, less hassle would be give a year nct after it passed .

Less hassle for people driving around without a valid NCT, which is what they are trying to avoid.

Mar4ix

but first registration in Ireland is way earlier then first registration, would it be brought over to Ireland in feb, and sold in may ?

ACtually just checked old nct, and it is issued till 18-feb-2013 , so does it mean, I can go to NCT center after 19 th november , and if it pass NCT, ill get cert till 18-FEB-2015 ?

Anan1

Mar4ix wrote: »

but first registration in Ireland is way earlier then first registration, would it be brought over to Ireland in feb, and sold in may ?

I didn't notice that before. First registration can't be after first registration in Ireland, for obvious reasons.

Mar4ix wrote: »

ACtually just checked old nct, and it is issued till 18-feb-2013 , so does it mean, I can go to NCT center after 19 th november , and if it pass NCT, ill get cert till 18-FEB-2015 ?

Yes.

Mar4ix

Anan1 wrote: »

Yes.

yeeeey

CiniO

Mar4ix wrote: »

but first registration in Ireland is way earlier then first registration, would it be brought over to Ireland in feb, and sold in may ?

ACtually just checked old nct, and it is issued till 18-feb-2013 , so does it mean, I can go to NCT center after 19 th november , and if it pass NCT, ill get cert till 18-FEB-2015 ?

Yes.


BTW - where did you get those dates?
IN VRC you have few fields referring to dates.
B - Date of First registration.
B.1 - Date of First Licensing in IRL.
B.2 - Year of Manufacture.
I - Date of registration in Ireland.

Which one is which on your car?

YbFocus

If your test is currently out then you won't get a year in February.

CiniO

YbFocus wrote: »

If your test is currently out then you won't get a year in February.

He will.
If he testes vehicle after 18th November, then he's certificate issued will be valid until 18th February 2015.
You can do your test up to 3 months early.

Mar4ix

CiniO wrote: »

Yes.


BTW - where did you get those dates?
IN VRC you have few fields referring to dates.
B - Date of First registration.
B.1 - Date of First Licensing in IRL.
B.2 - Year of Manufacture.
I - Date of registration in Ireland.

Which one is which on your car?

Ive posted in first post mate B and I , ir is all what i could find on logbook related to any dates.

CiniO

Mar4ix wrote: »

Ive posted in first post mate B and I , ir is all what i could find on logbook related to any dates.

Just asking, as on my logbook field B is empty.
I have B.1 (Date of first licensing in Ireland) as July 2002.
And I (Date of Registration in Ireland) as November 2001.
NCT is due in line with field I (due date is in November).

Mar4ix

CiniO wrote: »

Just asking, as on my logbook field B is empty.
I have B.1 (Date of first licensing in Ireland) as July 2002.
And I (Date of Registration in Ireland) as November 2001.
NCT is due in line with field I (due date is in November).

Yes, this is what i thought, old nct was til 18 feb2013 , so i assume nct been calculated till date which is in I section on logbook.

YbFocus

But if it's already out then surely it needs to be back dated?
If it'll be out a year in February, I'm presuming that's when the last one was out, then he'll be jumping a year. They always only give like 3 months if they can't backdate it to the original test (when it's equal to more than a year out).

If it's out already I can't understand how he'll get a full term test come February or 15 months from now either.

Mar4ix

First of all, i just got that car few days ago, today paid roadtax , and was lookin to get sort nct. I think thats was in rules , that they cant give nct less then 3 months, it was while ago in other thread. Not sure though.

Will let yous know how it turned out, after 3 weeks

CiniO

YbFocus wrote: »

But if it's already out then surely it needs to be back dated?
If it'll be out a year in February, I'm presuming that's when the last one was out, then he'll be jumping a year. They always only give like 3 months if they can't backdate it to the original test (when it's equal to more than a year out).

If it's out already I can't understand how he'll get a full term test come February or 15 months from now either.

You are wrong here.
NCT is not backdated. It's not a tax - it's a test.

You just proceed the test and it's valid from date of test, until next due date.

Due date comes on anniversary of first registration, and test can be proceeded up to 3 months early.
History of NCT (if it was done or not) is completely irrelevant. You could have car 10 years out of NCT, and if you do the test in right time, you could still get it valid for 15 months.


Suggesting that NCT is backdates would say that once you do NCT late it becomes valid for period before it was done - which won't be true.
F.e. if your NCT expires in May, and you do the test in August, you will get it valid from August to May next year. But it doesn't mean that once you've done it in August, it's backdated to period from May to August. It isn't.

CiniO

Mar4ix wrote: »

First of all, i just got that car few days ago, today paid roadtax , and was lookin to get sort nct. I think thats was in rules , that they cant give nct less then 3 months, it was while ago in other thread. Not sure though.

That's true. Shotest you can get NCT is 3 months. If you do your test within less than 3 months to next due date, you will get it for 15 (or 27) depending on age of the car).

Will let yous know how it turned out, after 3 weeks

There's only one way for it to turn out. 15 months it is.

YbFocus

CiniO wrote: »

You are wrong here.
NCT is not backdated. It's not a tax - it's a test.

You just proceed the test and it's valid from date of test, until next due date.

Due date comes on anniversary of first registration, and test can be proceeded up to 3 months early.
History of NCT (if it was done or not) is completely irrelevant. You could have car 10 years out of NCT, and if you do the test in right time, you could still get it valid for 15 months.


Suggesting that NCT is backdates would say that once you do NCT late it becomes valid for period before it was done - which won't be true.
F.e. if your NCT expires in May, and you do the test in August, you will get it valid from August to May next year. But it doesn't mean that once you've done it in August, it's backdated to period from May to August. It isn't.

I know from my own history Cinio that it is indeed backdated.
If I'm two months late on a 12 month test
(say for example test due in January, not tested until March)
Test will be from March to January, not until next March.
Of this I am sure.

My only concern is what happens when you run over a year out of test.

If it's a couple of months out though it is most certainly back dated.
Look at any amount of ads on donedeal with "test just done but backdated"

CiniO

YbFocus wrote: »

I know from my own history Cinio that it is indeed backdated.
If I'm two months late on a 12 month test
(say for example test due in January, not tested until March)
Test will be from March to January, not until next March.
Of this I am sure.

Yes, that's how it works.
But that's not backdating. If test was backdates in your example, so once you did it in March, it would be valid from January to January.

My only concern is what happens when you run over a year out of test.

If it's a couple of months out though it is most certainly back dated.
Look at any amount of ads on donedeal with "test just done but backdated"

As I said above. Test is always valid until next due date.
And it can be done 3 months early (6 months for cars 4 years old).

That's all about it.
Fact if previous NCT was done or not is completely irrelevant.

YbFocus

CiniO wrote: »

Yes, that's how it works.
But that's not backdating. If test was backdates in your example, so once you did it in March, it would be valid from January to January.

So then even if the disc doesn't say January you can see that you have only got ten months, this you've lost 2. Because it was backdated.

CiniO wrote: »

As I said above. Test is always valid until next due date.
And it can be done 3 months early (6 months for cars 4 years old).

That's all about it.
Fact if previous NCT was done or not is completely irrelevant.

Of course it's valid until next due date, like that's a silly statement.
He won't get a year like was said earlier though,
His test is out, if it's out more than a year then it came be backdated, he'll more than likely be given the three month test.

Mar4ix

YbFocus wrote: »

Of course it's valid until next due date, like that's a silly statement.
He won't get a year like was said earlier though,
His test is out, if it's out more than a year then it came be backdated, he'll more than likely be given the three month test.

After 19 th november itll be less then 3 months, and they cant give test less then 3 months, so they will have to give till february 2015. Never seen new tests given less then 3 months.

Ill goin to call to nct and ask, if they wont give me till feb 2015, i will book in nct in february, or if it will be imposible, will do resheadule on regular basis, untill feb 2014.

CiniO

YbFocus wrote: »

So then even if the disc doesn't say January you can see that you have only got ten months, this you've lost 2. Because it was backdated.

I know it's technical now, but not.
You can see that you only got 10 months, because next due date was in 10 months when you did the test.
Not becuase it was backdates, because it wasn't.

Definition of 'Backdating'
Dating any document by a date earlier than the one on which the document was originally drawn up. Under most circumstances, backdating is seen as fraudulent and illegal, although there are some situations in which backdating can be used in a legal and beneficial way, such as backdating a claim for a past period.

If the situation was that test was due in January. But you did the test in March. If this test (proceeded in March) would make your NCT valid from January, then it would be backdates. But it isn't.

Of course it's valid until next due date, like that's a silly statement.

No it isn't silly argument.
For OP next due date is on 18th February 2014.
As everyone is allowed to proceed test 3 months earlier and have it valid till due date after next one, if OP does his NCT after 18th November 2013, then it will be valid until 18th Feb 2015.

He won't get a year like was said earlier though,

He will.

His test is out, if it's out more than a year then it came be backdated,

Fact that his test is out is irrelevant.
Do you agree that if his test was valid (done in time in February 2013), and he signed on for test now after 18th November, he would get his cert valid until 18th February 2015? I'm sure you do.
And if you do, then considering the fact that previous certificates are irrelevant to issuing of new ones, he will get a test valid until 18th February 2015.

he'll more than likely be given the three month test.

15 months.

CiniO

Mar4ix wrote: »

After 19 th november itll be less then 3 months, and they cant give test less then 3 months, so they will have to give till february 2015. Never seen new tests given less then 3 months.

Ill goin to call to nct and ask, if they wont give me till feb 2015, i will book in nct in february, or if it will be imposible, will do resheadule on regular basis, untill feb 2014.

Don't worry OP. You will get cert valid until Feb 2015.
This was discussed here many times, and many people confirmed it.
NCT centre couldn't do otherwise, as the law clearly states that you can do test 3 months early and get cert and disc valid until subsequent due date.

Tinkerbell4484

My next NCT is due 4/4/14. So I can get it done 4/1/14 and then it's valid until 4/4/15???

YbFocus

Mar4ix wrote: »

After 19 th november itll be less then 3 months, and they cant give test less then 3 months, so they will have to give till february 2015. Never seen new tests given less then 3 months.

Ill goin to call to nct and ask, if they wont give me till feb 2015, i will book in nct in february, or if it will be imposible, will do resheadule on regular basis, untill feb 2014.

Oh I know you can't be given less than three months man, I hope that you get more but I reckon you won't

Maybe I'm totally wrong on this and I hope I am

@CiniO - I wait to see what the result is, maybe i got this from nowhere

YbFocus

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

My next NCT is due 4/4/14. So I can get it done 4/1/14 and then it's valid until 4/4/15???

Yep you'll get a 15 month test

CiniO

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

My next NCT is due 4/4/14. So I can get it done 4/1/14 and then it's valid until 4/4/15???

Yes.
But it will probably need to be 5/1/14

YbFocus

YbFocus wrote: »

Oh I know you can't be given less than three months man, I hope that you get more but I reckon you won't

Maybe I'm totally wrong on this and I hope I am

@CiniO - I wait to see what the result is, maybe i got this from nowhere

Its common knowledge for years that if you let your nct run out by a full term that you can essentially skip that round of the nct.

Say the OPs test is due the 1st of march 2014, If the op ncts his car today he will get an nct until the 1st of march 2014, if he nct's it on or after the 1st of december he will get an nct until the 1st of march 2015. Its very simple and straight forward.