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Funding for Private Professional Course

  • 31-10-2013 8:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭mogrady14


    Hi. I am thinking of doing Chartered Accountancy course/exams. The fees are €3000 for the professional course and the exams. Its a part time course so I can't apply for the Education Grant. What other sources of funding could I get?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Have you considered prostitution?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    mogrady14 wrote: »
    Hi. I am thinking of doing Chartered Accountancy course/exams. The fees are €3000 for the professional course and the exams. Its a part time course so I can't apply for the Education Grant. What other sources of funding could I get?

    have you tried a Christmas charity single?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Have a family member get caught smuggling drugs into a foreign country and set up a fundraiser to pay for their legal fees.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Pay for it yourself or get mammy and daddy to pay like happened the rest of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Credit Union loan?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Have you considered getting a part time job?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    You could try and get a loan. I don't know what the story is with education loans nowadays though..



    AH answer: Do you have access to an old motorhome and some chemistry equipment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭mogrady14


    I am working to pay off my credit card so don't have much earnings for Accountancy courses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    mogrady14 wrote: »
    Hi. I am thinking of doing Chartered Accountancy course/exams. The fees are €3000 for the professional course and the exams. Its a part time course so I can't apply for the Education Grant. What other sources of funding could I get?

    seriously though I'm a qualified accountant. if i passed an exam my employer refunded me for the sitting I passed. however i failed more times than passed so it cost me thousands over the years. worth it though.

    its not cheap and can be a very long process.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    mogrady14 wrote: »
    I am working to pay off my credit card so don't have much earnings for Accountancy courses.

    I don't mean to sound cruel but... tough. You can run up a credit card bill and can't afford a course but want somebody else to pay for it. I did my degree, masters and PhD in the era before free third level courses without a grant, by working, doing without much and paying my own way. Try it. It's very rewarding.


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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Usually the employer pays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭mogrady14


    Srameen. Who paid the fees for your course? By any chance was it the taxpayer . I ran up the credit card paying registration fees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    mogrady14 wrote: »
    Srameen. Who paid the fees for your course? By any chance was it the taxpayer . I ran up the credit card paying registration fees.


    Running on your credit card doesn't make the money inside come out.

    I've tried.


    Your best bet is to pull off a bank heist, it will only take a few months to plan and if you give me a cut I know where to get an elephant for the distraction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    wazky wrote: »
    Have you considered prostitution?
    have you tried a Christmas charity single?
    Have a family member get caught smuggling drugs into a foreign country and set up a fundraiser to pay for their legal fees.
    Pay for it yourself or get mammy and daddy to pay like happened the rest of us.

    :D OP have you considered posting on a different thread :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    Isn't this what linked-in was made for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    I don't mean to sound cruel but... tough. You can run up a credit card bill and can't afford a course but want somebody else to pay for it. I did my degree, masters and PhD in the era before free third level courses without a grant, by working, doing without much and paying my own way. Try it. It's very rewarding.
    era before grants?

    when was this? 1925?

    grants and other publicly funded schemes existed long before 'free tuition fees'.But older people are quick to forget them.

    In reality the situation hasn't changed much. I am a part time postgraduate student, and most of my fees are privately funded, but there are public supports available for some students, as there always were, in living memory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Quiet normal to have graduated before the early 1990s and paid your own fees in college.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    A/s/l/price?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    Quiet normal to have graduated before the early 1990s and paid your own fees in college.

    Now too.

    I have spent about €50k (which I don't have), from the time I entered college as an undergraduate.

    The idea that modern students/ postgrads pay nothing is a fantastical myth. I have no idea where it came from. The situation has hardly changed.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Over eight years in further education, and I've worked throughout. Think of it as investing in yourself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    An employer generally pays AFAIK.

    I assume you should get a lower level qualification and get taken on in a graduate position and take it from there.

    Not my field so I may be a bit inaccurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Candie wrote: »
    Over eight years in further education, and I've worked throughout. Think of it as investing in yourself.

    Woah there, working?! How dare you suggest that the OP should have to actually work to fund his education, these aren't the bloody dark ages you know!

    Op, become a welfare tourist for every state in the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    mogrady14 wrote: »
    I am working to pay off my credit card so don't have much earnings for Accountancy courses.

    What makes you think you are suited for Accountancy then? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I'm paying 9k for a masters this year. No financial support at all. It's called getting a bank loan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Honestly the only thing to do is save as much money as possible. Cut down on all spending. No coffees, no pints, bring lunch.

    Pay off your credit card as quickly as you can. Switch card providers if it helps but cut the damn thing up and don't use it again.

    It might take two or three years but it's worth it.




    AH answer - sell some worn knickers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    ACCA level 1 would cost no more than a few hundred, no 'course' needed, just read the books & past papers. Find out from these exams whether you've got what it takes.

    A lot of people waste money on courses that are more about the Uni' having an 'offering' on a subject than anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    mogrady14 wrote: »
    Srameen. Who paid the fees for your course? By any chance was it the taxpayer . I ran up the credit card paying registration fees.

    If you read what I said, I did so before free third level. My family and I paid - no taxpayers were involved!


    And we qualified for no grants because my dad worked as a machinist in a factory! No car, or phone at home but we put a lot of store in education.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    mogrady14 wrote: »
    Hi. I am thinking of doing Chartered Accountancy course/exams. The fees are €3000 for the professional course and the exams. Its a part time course so I can't apply for the Education Grant. What other sources of funding could I get?

    You might be eligible for tax relief on the fees

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    If you read what I said, I did so before free third level. My family and I paid - no taxpayers were involved!


    And we qualified for no grants because my dad worked as a machinist in a factory! No car, or phone at home but we put a lot of store in education.

    Not everyone has a family that can afford to pay huge college fees.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • mogrady14 wrote: »
    I am working to pay off my credit card so don't have much earnings for Accountancy courses.

    So why do you expect other people to fund you? :confused: Pay for it yourself once you've paid your debts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    mogrady14 wrote: »
    Hi. I am thinking of doing Chartered Accountancy course/exams. The fees are €3000 for the professional course and the exams. Its a part time course so I can't apply for the Education Grant. What other sources of funding could I get?

    Are you unemployed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Not everyone has a family that can afford to pay huge college fees.

    You're not listening to me! We had no money when I was at college. We scrimped and saved. My father was an unskilled worker on a low wage but he and my mother did without car, phone, holidays etc and I worked 2 jobs to get through college. Then I got a full time job and did my masters. The PhD followed when I was better settled in a career and could pay my way. Many families in those days had very little but made sacrifices to get an education for their children. It was no joy at the time to be at college with no money for anything other than basic essentials. Trips home were by thumbing lifts. Accomodation was a damp one room bed-sit with a long walk in and out to lectures each day. So don't try to come back with the wealthy family line. For a long time in this country ordinary working class families got no assistance for education. I'm talking about the early 60s here. Not a very affluent time in Ireland's history!
    No wealthy parent - no such luck. You cut your cloth to your means and you do additional qualifications as and when you can afford it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    So why do you expect other people to fund you? :confused: Pay for it yourself once you've paid your debts!

    I'm not sure there's an expectation there as such, but if funding is available, why wouldn't someone avail of it? There's no harm in the OP asking. Are you seriously telling me you would have turned down funding you were eligible for?




  • I'm not sure there's an expectation there as such, but if funding is available, why wouldn't someone avail of it? There's no harm in the OP asking. Are you seriously telling me you would have turned down funding you were eligible for?

    No, but there's a serious sense of entitlement from OP. I got funding for my Master's, but spent ages searching for it and it took me 2 years to get it. I certainly didn't expect it and was delighted to get it, having funded my own undergrad degree. OP hasn't even bothered to research options himself and seems to only want to do it if someone else pays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    To be honest, if you are seeking to pursue a chartered accountacy course and neither have a job in an accounting firm nor funding then you are on a fool's errand.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭BlurstMonkey


    Only in Ireland can you find such animosity directed toward a stranger asking a perfectly reasonable question. Grants and the like exist. There's nothing wrong with making an inquiry about what's available, and there's no shame in asking either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    If you read what I said, I did so before free third level. My family and I paid - no taxpayers were involved!


    And we qualified for no grants because my dad worked as a machinist in a factory! No car, or phone at home but we put a lot of store in education.

    In the late 80s, I recall reports that fees (such as the IR£1400 or so for TCD) were actually only a contribution, the cost per student of running the course & associated spend was a multiple of that; iirc, IR£5-8k. So, actually, if that was your situation, then the taxpayer was most certainly involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    Only in Ireland can you find such animosity directed toward a stranger asking a perfectly reasonable question. Grants and the like exist. There's nothing wrong with making an inquiry about what's available, and there's no shame in asking either.

    & your evidence for this is..?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    In the late 80s, I recall reports that fees (such as the IR£1400 or so for TCD) were actually only a contribution, the cost per student of running the course & associated spend was a multiple of that; iirc, IR£5-8k. So, actually, if that was your situation, then the taxpayer was most certainly involved.

    In the same way that the government (via the taxpayer) funds primary and secondary eduacation, and continues to fund 3rd level. That's because most governments consider investing in the education of the population a very worthwhile investment. Srameem's point, which I think he made very clearly, is that s/he went to university during a time when students also had to pay tuition fees, as well as registration fees, so the overall cost was more than it is now, when students don't have to pay tuition fees for their primary degree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    In the same way that the government (via the taxpayer) funds primary and secondary eduacation, and continues to fund 3rd level. That's because most governments consider investing in the education of the population a very worthwhile investment. Srameem's point, which I think he made very clearly, is that s/he went to university during a time when students also had to pay tuition fees, as well as registration fees, so the overall cost was more than it is now, when students don't have to pay tuition fees for their primary degree.

    Oh, I see. I got confused when he wrote: no taxpayers were involved!

    Complete with exclamation mark.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Not everyone has a family that can afford to pay huge college fees.

    Way to miss a point.
    Well done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    You're not listening to me! We had no money when I was at college. We scrimped and saved. My father was an unskilled worker on a low wage but he and my mother did without car, phone, holidays etc and I worked 2 jobs to get through college. Then I got a full time job and did my masters. The PhD followed when I was better settled in a career and could pay my way. Many families in those days had very little but made sacrifices to get an education for their children. It was no joy at the time to be at college with no money for anything other than basic essentials. Trips home were by thumbing lifts. Accomodation was a damp one room bed-sit with a long walk in and out to lectures each day. So don't try to come back with the wealthy family line. For a long time in this country ordinary working class families got no assistance for education. I'm talking about the early 60s here. Not a very affluent time in Ireland's history!
    No wealthy parent - no such luck. You cut your cloth to your means and you do additional qualifications as and when you can afford it.

    Oh no! Did your mother survive without the cars and holidays for four whole years??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    Oh, I see. I got confused when he wrote: no taxpayers were involved!

    Complete with exclamation mark.

    Glad I could clear that up for you:D


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