Bertie compares himself to Blair.

WilyCoyote · 28-10-2013 1:42am #1

How can he remember so many details with a memory like his ie, cheques, money from benefactors, horse racing certainties and the greatest one of all ..... that he remembered that he had no bank account atall atall.
Please keep it civil - you're on boards!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/my-friendship-with-blair-helped-bring-peace-to-the-north-bertie-29701893.html

wretcheddomain · 28-10-2013 1:46am

We need him back.

sidneykidney · 28-10-2013 1:46am

WilyCoyote wrote: »

How can he remember so many details with a memory like his ie, cheques, money from benefactors, horse racing certainties and the greatest one of all ..... that he remembered that he had no bank account atall atall.
Please keep it civil - you're on boards!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/my-friendship-with-blair-helped-bring-peace-to-the-north-bertie-29701893.html

They're both guilty of bringing a country to it's knees. In Blairs case Iraq and Berties, Ireland

theblaqueguy · 28-10-2013 1:46am

Bertie for president!

Mint Aero · 28-10-2013 1:52am

My friendship with Blair
helped bring peace to
the North – Ralph Wigum's Diary.

ColeTrain · 28-10-2013 2:00am

'Bertie compares himself to Stalin' would have been a better story.

ballsymchugh · 28-10-2013 2:12am

will he be looking for the artist's exemption for his input to this too after his previous work of fiction?

Blue Crystal · 28-10-2013 2:14am

Well they are both wánkers...

Richard Hillman · 28-10-2013 2:26am

In fairness to Bertie and all the crimes he committed against the country, he did do a decent job with the Northern question.

policarp · 28-10-2013 2:37am

Charlie said he was better than himself.
That's some C.V.

Karl Stein · 28-10-2013 3:06am

Insignificant worm compares himself to war criminal.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 28-10-2013 3:28am

Bertie was a protege of Haughey, he learnt every trick in the book from him. His stand out feature was that he was much more personable than Haughey ever was.

As a general thought that's not to say FF ever did more wrong to this country than they did right. They were never wishy washy like the blueshirts. They haven't gone anywhere, I expect them to be returned to government in 2016 with FG who apparently are already making overtures. One super party, FF or FG aren't going to deal with SF.

pauldla · 28-10-2013 3:37am

"Well, his name is AB, and my name is BA, so there's that. And we both are Catlick. And we both like football. And we both pee through a mickey. And, er, that's all I've got."

Mickey H · 28-10-2013 5:56am

They have one big thing in common - kings of irony. Bertie was Minister for Finance with "no bank account" and Blair is a peace envoy for the middle east.

Nodin · 28-10-2013 6:34am

Mint Aero wrote: »

My friendship with Blair
helped bring peace to
the North – Ralph Wigum's Diary.

Mo who? - Ralph Wiggum

Annasopra · 28-10-2013 7:54am

Oh ffs - there were many others who built the peace process before Bertie came along

Benny_Cake · 28-10-2013 7:58am

Tony Blair is a far more accomplished liar than Bertie. Plus, you know, the war crimes and all of that.

Zebra3 · 28-10-2013 9:01am

As mush as I despise Ahern, he's nothing like Blair.

Blair should be hanging from a rope in the Hague.

And what does he do now? Middle East peace envoy. Ffs.... :rolleyes:

For Forks Sake · 28-10-2013 9:01am

Richard Hillman wrote: »

In fairness to Bertie and all the crimes he committed against the country, he did do a decent job with the Northern question.

He did in his hole, Reynolds and Major had a huge amount of the groundwork done, Bertie actually got very lucky with the North.

El Siglo · 28-10-2013 10:49am

Fair play for comparing himself to Blair, both complete and utter shitheads who should be rotting in prison.

Duckworth_Luas · 28-10-2013 11:14am

De Peas Processed

Smiles35 · 28-10-2013 11:24am

Bunch of oul begrudgers. If it's not Bertie, it's U2. Or Eddie Rockets.

baztard · 28-10-2013 12:07pm

Bertie Ahern wrote:

When people ask me how we solved the problems in Northern Ireland and how we brought peace to somewhere that had for so long known only war and killing, my answer is invariably that it was not easy!

Theres another sign of your ignorance and arrogance Bertie. You helped solve the problems. As in you played a part, yourself and Blair didn't do the whole thing by yourselves.

You're an economic traitor and a liar and thief.

biko · 28-10-2013 12:14pm

I can't think of a single thing that Bertie did that was good for Ireland. Him and Cowen messed things up pretty good and gave cronyism a face, well two faces.

Wacker The Attacker · 28-10-2013 12:34pm

Benny_Cake wrote: »

Tony Blair is a far more accomplished liar than Bertie. Plus, you know, the war crimes and all of that.

There's no such thing as an accomplishment liar.

There are only liars and liars who haven't been caught yet.

Wacker The Attacker · 28-10-2013 12:35pm

Smell Badda wrote: »

Bunch of oul begrudgers. If it's not Bertie, it's U2. Or Eddie Rockets.

You voted FF at the last election didn't you

WilyCoyote · 28-10-2013 12:43pm

Carlos Roca wrote: »

Insignificant worm compares himself to war criminal.

Sounds like Chuck to me

Smiles35 · 28-10-2013 12:51pm

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

You voted FF at the last election didn't you

Maybe I did. But even if a Saint was raised by my vote, he'd still be spokin ill of here.

WilyCoyote · 28-10-2013 12:55pm

mango salsa wrote: »

Oh ffs - there were many others who built the peace process before Bertie came along

Like the British Armies/Planters over the years. If they had not ridden roughshod/stolen lands from the indigenous population - who were the rightful owners - there would never have been a peace process - or a need for it.

So Bertie, you got it wrong on this one. And for all the Brit lovers ........ LETS HEAR IT FOR THE BRITISH ARMY AND THE PLANTERS :rolleyes:

Femme_Fatale · 28-10-2013 12:56pm

Smell Badda wrote: »

Maybe I did. But even if a Saint was raised by my vote, he'd still be spokin ill of here.

Oh you weren't taking the piss with the "begrudgers" comment?

That's right, people's reservations about Bertie are only "begrudgery".

keeponhurling · 28-10-2013 1:01pm

What did Ahern do as Taoiseach around the time of agreeing the GFA, that any other Taoiseach at that time would have done?

Arguably Reynolds (along with Hume) made a much bigger contribution, brining Sinn Fein in from the cold to a position where a peace agreement was possible.

Busted Flat. · 28-10-2013 1:02pm

mango salsa wrote: »

Oh ffs - there were many others who built the peace process before Bertie came along

Eh, like John Bruton, Quote, "Fook the peace process"

keeponhurling · 28-10-2013 1:06pm

OK, if Bruton had been Taoiseach he might have messed it up. Might have alienated the nationalist side by cosying up to the unionists and British too much, and not seemed to be an impartal facilitator.

However I think Enda Kenny, Reynolds, or whever else would have done just as much as Bertie.

Smiles35 · 28-10-2013 1:07pm

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Oh you weren't taking the piss with the "begrudgers" comment?

That's right, people's reservations about Bertie are only "begrudgery".

No, you were right first time round. ''Moaning kids'' would be what Id write now. I dont care about how many backhanders that fella got or any of his accounts. It never did any harm to me or you.

ps. I never voted for anyone. am I not guilty by association though?

Femme_Fatale · 28-10-2013 1:19pm

Smell Badda wrote: »

No, you were right first time round. ''Moaning kids'' would be what Id write now. I dont care about how many backhanders that fella got or any of his accounts. It never did any harm to me or you.

A public representative doing so though.

Look, I normally steer clear of politician-bashing threads because they're full of the same auld ad nauseum shyte from people who as you say would criticise any politician at all and never seem to offer alternatives themselves, but you've gotta be having a laugh when you essentially say Bertie wasn't that bad.

RobbingBandit · 28-10-2013 1:20pm

Both got cheeky grins, both are compulsive liars, both jumped ship before their parties went down the crapper, Both went to the 1999 FA Cup Final,Bertie Man Utd,Blair Newcastle.

Soft Falling Rain · 28-10-2013 1:22pm

Bertie being beligerant about his past misdeeds?! WTF!! I am shocked!

keeponhurling · 28-10-2013 1:31pm

Both appointed terrible successors, possibly deliberately

Potatoeman · 28-10-2013 1:40pm

He has a real chip on his shoulder about being blamed for the bubble and though he wont outright say it he clearly thinks voters are just as responsible. He is half right people didnt care what was happening during the boom but the government and financial regulator were responsible for letting the whole mess carry on.