Changing waves DCM 2013

mara_throway

Hey,

Seemingly I signed up to be in wave 2, but my goal time has shrunk since.

I wanted to take advantage of the 3,30 pacers, but now I can't. I was also told today that I could not more forward only backwards in the waves. (People with green bibs won't be allowed into the first wave starting area supposedly)

Has anybody any experience with this?

Should I:
(a) Grin and bear the disadvantage

(b) Try make it into the first wave starting area, running the risk of potentially messing my official time up (If you can move back I don't see this as a possibility)

Any and all ideas or information welcome... I'm pretty pissed after the months of training as you might imagine

RacoonQueen

A)

You won't be at a disadvantage at all. I assume wave 2 is between 3:30 and 4:15 so you'll be around similarly paced runners.

mara_throway

No wave 2 is 3.50+

After reviewing my position I have opted to start in wave 1.

RacoonQueen

You can't start in Wave 1. You have a green number.

plumber77

You'll be shepherded to the correct wave for sure. If you did manage to sneak in, you're time would be grand as the chip only starts as you cross the start & finish lines.

ultrapercy

mara_throway wrote: »

No wave 2 is 3.50+

After reviewing my position I have opted to start in wave 1.

I look forward to the book detailing the whole harrowing event. Also the movie should be good. Make sure you have imput regarding the soundtrack, soundtrack is important.

mara_throway

RacoonQueen wrote: »

You can't start in Wave 1. You have a green number.

Guidelines are only guidelines, I've read the rules. It's a mere crowd control mechanism. I will probably be told I am going the wrong direction but that's about it.

I'll make sure to kick any slow grannies on the way out if that's what you're after...

Soundtrack will be self-composed.

robinph

The entry into the different areas is well controlled by the marshalls and they won't let you in. Don't mess up other people's day by blocking the path trying to win a futile argument with them.

Start in the correct area and you'll enjoy a clearer road ahead with people of the same standard. Start at the back of the wrong zone and you will be amongst a crowd of people who are in the wrong area.

pconn062

Imagine, this is the shit the volunteers have to put up with every year. I couldn't do it.

digger2d2

mara_throway wrote: »

No wave 2 is 3.50+

After reviewing my position I have opted to start in wave 1.

Whether you reviewed your goal time or not, based on your recent half time Wave 2 was correct for you and you should have been aiming for a couple of minutes under 3:50. If you were so determined to bend the rules for your own needs I'm surprised you would need the help of pacers!?

mara_throway

It's not in the rules dude... Chill out, race over, 3.45. I won't be making that mistake again for fear of aggravating such straight shooting keyboard warriors - NOT

mara_throway

And no, you cannot possibly say that wave 2 was correct for me given the fact that it was for over 3.50 and every extrapolating race calculator and their mother had my times well under that mark.

drquirky

I'm nominating this thread for most unintentionally hilarious of the year. Well done on proving all these couch potatoes wrong! That 3:45 really stuck it to them- hope you styled it across the finish line?

Enjoy your new elite status!

RacoonQueen

pconn062 wrote: »

Imagine, this is the shit the volunteers have to put up with every year. I couldn't do it.

Chinguetti was a great volunteer. Should of seen the dance moves he was pulling off with the spectators. Strictly come dancing, eat your heart out.

robinph

Well done on your 1st marathon.

But 3:45 is not "well under" 3:50 such that it was worth making a nuisance of yourself at the start line. If your name was Sean Hehir and you found yourself with the wrong coloured bib on the day then yes, it would have been wise to try and get things fixed. Otherwise grin and bear it as 5 minutes either way on the starting wave times really doesn't make any difference and you'd have a far clearer run of things from the front of wave 2 than from the back of wave 1.

The people on this forum have done one or two marathons previously and they tend to have a good idea of how these things work out. We are all just trying to be helpful and sharing the knowledge when people ask a question.

chinguetti

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Chinguetti was a great volunteer. Should of seen the dance moves he was pulling off with the spectators. Strictly come dancing, eat your heart out.

To be fair, most people were fine but around Grafton St was nuts with the crowd. Enjoyed the day of stewarding (thanks Raycun) but my voice was gone on Tuesday morning. People kept leaning forward making it difficult for the runners to pass in an effort to see friends/family running it. They should barrier from Trinity to the line as the number of runners are getting so big, space is a problem with the crowds watching.

My top 3 of mad things that i saw were:

3 - the guy who cycled up to me, stopped and asked me was it ok to continue along the road

2 - the girl who ran onto the road with a suitcase, put the suitcase down and took her phone out of her pocket and starting to take photos of the approaching runners. Suitcase and girl were quickly moved off the road by myself.

1 - The little old lady who walked straight out onto the road assisting a blind lady across the road just in front of people finishing around 3.50 or so. How the two of them weren't knocked down was a miracle.

As for runners in the wrong wave, saw a few of the front runners in wave 2 flying along by Grafton St and was thinking to myself that they would pay for that effort in the latter miles. Slow and steady wins the race.

pconn062

mara_throway wrote: »

It's not in the rules dude... Chill out, race over, 3.45. I won't be making that mistake again for fear of aggravating such straight shooting keyboard warriors - NOT

I'm not a keyboard warrior, I'm a keyboard ninja.

digger2d2

mara_throway wrote: »

It's not in the rules dude... Chill out, race over, 3.45. I won't be making that mistake again for fear of aggravating such straight shooting keyboard warriors - NOT

mara_throway wrote: »

And no, you cannot possibly say that wave 2 was correct for me given the fact that it was for over 3.50 and every extrapolating race calculator and their mother had my times well under that mark.

I'm chilled, I'm wearing a Kimono.....

Your half time did not calculate you'd be well under 3:50 and Wave 2 was correct based on your half time. Furthermore, your finishing time shows those calculations to have been correct. I'm just glad that a couple of thousand wave 2'ers didn't have the same clever idea as you and ruin your plans.:rolleyes:

Look, all messing aside, as a running community we typically try to promote good practice. There are too many races where people start too far forward, slowing faster runners down, increasing the risk of tripping up etc. The guidelines as you refer to them are there for a good reason and I'd like to think that someone who can run a 3:45 should embrace that. In Berlin I started in a Wave based on my previous marathon time although I was in shape to run 20 minutes quicker. I sucked it up, started in my allocated wave, ran strong and blew away my PB....