Plumber convicted

Wearb

Read on Irish times today about a plumber mounting a gas boiler without proper qualifications. Even though he did not connect it to gas he was found guilty of technical breach of regulations. So "be careful out there".

Just turned page and read about two people who died some time back of CO poisoning in a pit at a grain plant. Salutary warnings for us all.

esox28

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/plumber-convicted-for-breach-of-gas-regualtions-1.1573775

A step in the right direction and much appreciated by me, but only the fourth prosecution since 2006

There were 28,000 gas boiler fitted last year alone and only half of those were registered, this would indicate much much more needs to be done to improve gas safety.

scudo2

esox28 wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/plumber-convicted-for-breach-of-gas-regualtions-1.1573775

Some plumbers I know often do this. Fit the boiler, do all the wet work and get a RGII partner to fit the gas pipe and commission it.
They still think (or did) think this was all totaly legal and above board. As they were not the final person and didn't do the gas pipes .
Some will be shocked to realise they were breaking the law.
The guys I'm talking about are good honest plumbers that only get a small number of gas boilers to install.

This hopefully be an eye opener.

shane0007

gary71 wrote: »

There were 28,000 gas boiler fitted last year alone and only half of those were registered, this would indicate much much more needs to be done to improve gas safety.

True, but how many are installed by RGI's but they haven't returned their Certs?
Although RGII seems to be acting on that now. I ordered a book of Cert 2's & then couldn't find it. Ordered another book & a few days later I got a letter from RGII asking me where the previous Certs are, giving the cert numbers also. I then found the book & has to sign a letter that they were unused. Another step in the right direction IMO.

DK man

I had two supposedly rig men out servicing my gas boiler over the last few years. IMO both were poor enough. One told me he fixed machines in a factory before joining this company - I asked him some questions about the boiler and he didn't seem to be very knowledgable and the other guy seemed to know even less - and a neighbour said they he didn't think he was a qualified plumber! Questions about the pressure needed in the system etc.

Now it's either very easy to be rgi qualified or this company had non qualified people doing the service. Both services were little more than taking off the cover and wiping the Finns clean with a brush. Pressure was low in system and asked him to pressure it up and he looked at me as if I had two heads...

What kind of training is required to be rgi?

DK man

DK man wrote: »

What kind of training is required to be rgi?

Up untill recently you could of been a RGI if you wanted to give it a lash.

There are some very very good and competent RGI's out there, their level of competence and professionalism should have been used as a benchmark but instead with State sponsored silliness over the last few years there has been a large influx of unskilled incompetent RGI's who try to learn from making mistakes in other peoples homes.

gifted

I was a member of RGII and I don't have a clue how to commission a boiler,plumber over 20 years and no bother piping up one but haven't a clue on how one works and to tell you the truth I'm not interested in finding out. Once the cover comes off the boiler then I reckon that your into specialist country which is why I'm not an RGII anymore, leave it to the people that know best

scudo2

gifted wrote: »

I was a member of RGII and I don't have a clue how to commission a boiler,plumber over 20 years and no bother piping up one but haven't a clue on how one works and to tell you the truth I'm not interested in finding out. Once the cover comes off the boiler then I reckon that your into specialist country which is why I'm not an RGII anymore, leave it to the people that know best

I'd be the same as yourself gifted but stayed in RGI though I've done GI 1+ 2 + 3 just to stay legal if I ever had to do gas, lucky I'm always kept going on oil.

I always pass on servicing to full time gas service eng. and they pass on to me the oil boilers.

Simular I pass on gas replacments to RGI plumbers and oil boiler replacments in the winter when I'm full time oil servicing and don't have time for replacments work.

System works well for us all this way.
Customer always gets the most appropate professional.
Everybody's happy.