Elisa Lam

kryogen

Reading up on the mysterious death of the 21 year old student and find it very interesting.


Don't have time to get into it right now, just haven't seen it discussed here and think it would be of interest to the board. For best results google her name and search around yourself or for a quick introduction click this link

http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/mysterious-case-elisa-lam/

The video is there too, the elevator security camera not long before she died

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TjVBpyTeZM

The news report when the body was found a couple of weeks later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjoaZbhAH5w

weisses

Interesting .... Heard about that case, more so because of the people showering with that water

What do you think about this case? and the possible conspiracy surrounding it?

kryogen

weisses wrote: »

Interesting .... Heard about that case, more so because of the people showering with that water

What do you think about this case? and the possible conspiracy surrounding it?

I will try to get online later after work maybe to give my thoughts, tbh Im just not sure. Its such a strange case. From watching the video you would assume she was on some sort of drug, hard to explain the weird behaviour, particularly the hand movements etc otherwise. There was no drugs found in here system though.

How did she get up to the tank, where were her clothes gone? How did she get in and close the tank alone or how did someone else do it and avoid detection since the door to the roof is alarmed and they have sensors to tell if someone has gone up there.

As far as conspiracies go, its unsolved and it looks like there had to be more then one other individual involved which is a conspiracy in itself. But more in keeping with the website, I wouldn't put it past the government to have given her TB, put her in the water tank to spread the disease and see what happened for future reference, a case study possibly.

There was an outbreak of TB in Skid Row soon after and there were people drinking and showering in that water for two weeks until the body was found (and they had to use a saw to cut a hole in the tanker to drain the water to get her out)

Just a puzzler, and a sad cas.

weisses

The "time stamp Conspiracy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YO4QbaNDjI

Torakx

Here is what wiki had to say about this hotel

The Cecil Hotel in Downtown Los Angeles (640 S. Main Street) is a budget hotel with 600 guest rooms (originally 700). Constructed in 1927, the hotel was intended for business travelers but in the 1950s it gained a reputation as a residence for transients. A portion of the hotel was refurbished in 2007 after new owners took over.
The Hotel is known for its criminal activity which include three murders and several suicides.[2] Most notably, the hotel was the reported residence for serial killers Richard Ramirez in 1985 and Jack Unterweger in 1991.[2] Recently, in February 2013, the body of Elisa Lam, a 21-year-old Canadian woman, was found inside one of the water supply tanks on the hotel roof. The body was discovered after patrons complained of low water pressure.[3]

Just saw that info is already on vigilant citizen, but meh.
It's a bit freaky alright.
Seems strange to have had so many murders related to this hotel and having changed owners IIRC maybe the common factor is staff or locals.
Or as some have mentioned a branch of government doing tests.

The hand movements do not seem that strange to me.
Reminds me of child like nervousness and fear.
She appeared to be hiding in the elevator from somebody.Thats quite clear.Peeking out now and then to see.
Maybe .... somebody who knew where the cameras were, was outside the elevator asking her to come out and talk or something.
She may have hit the hold doors button as some comments mentioned on the vigilant citizen site.

As for the coroners report, I wouldn't trust that either way.Or what the media or police would report after investigating.

Are the water tanks linked to that other area that contracted TB?
How common is TB in that area or anywhere for that matter?
No point asking the coroner if she had TB either I guess.



Also another theory I stumbled across.

"It’s not strange at all, let me restore the truth to this matter. The girl entered the elevator relaxed and cheerful, mischievously pressed 4 floor buttons, which indicates that there was another person who was about to enter. After waiting a while, nobody came in, the the girl hid in the corner of the elevator hoping to give the second party a scare. Judging from the way the girl playfully and flirtatiously hopped out, the second party should be a man with whom she has an intimate relationship with. The reason for the elevator door remaining open is because this man was pressing the button outside. Although the girl opened her arms to express her dissatisfaction, she at last changed her plan to go down, and returned to the hotel room with the man. The elevator door closed and it went down, opening and closing its door at the floors on which the buttons were pressed, operating normally."

Second viewing of the video, she actually didn't look that scared.
Counting on her fingers, maybe singing?
Possibly someone with connections to the hotel for getting to the security footage to edit it and someone she may have known.
Wonder why she was visiting alone all the way from Canada.

Boombastic

My take on this very strange story?

The hotel changed hands sometime, not too long before the murder. It is more of a hostel than a hotel. City chiefs said that the new owners must retain a certain percentage of rooms for homeless people. There was talk of a lot of homeless people going to be kicked out and the whole hotel refurbished (some of it is done, with part of it being a boutique hotel next door, but the same building). Someone living there was afraid that they would be kicked out and murdered this girl in the hotel so disincentive people from staying there....



How did she get in to the water tank...??

The video, I believe is slowed down and a bit cut from it

Torakx

Now that is a very good theory.
I was trying to research ownership, but took me ages to find who I thought was the manager, only to see he worked just a year or two around 2001-2002.

Boombastic

Torakx wrote: »

Now that is a very good theory.
I was trying to research ownership, but took me ages to find who I thought was the manager, only to see he worked just a year or two around 2001-2002.

There are, how shall we say, some interesting things about the staff & residents, iirc. I'll dig up some links. At the moment her parents are suing the hotel.
http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20130920/parents-sue-over-daughter-found-dead-in-cecil-hotel-water-tank