did you get 1st installment of sfp yet?

whelan1

well

lefthooker

No payment and no contact. As per usual I had to contact them to find out there was a problem:mad:

theaceofspies

Got it (SFP) but the DAS was delayed through no fault of mine. The ship was taking in water already - lucky the money did come in when it did :eek:.
It seems to me that these delays have become Departmental policy - there is now much more 'reasons' (substitute with excuses) for them to withhold/slow payment.
I think it's time for John Dillon to come out of retirement and rattle a few cages.

moy83

theaceofspies wrote: »

Got it (SFP) but the DAS was delayed through no fault of mine. The ship was taking in water already - lucky the money did come in when it did :eek:.
It seems to me that these delays have become Departmental policy - there is now much more 'reasons' (substitute with excuses) for them to withhold/slow payment.
I think it's time for John Dillon to come out of retirement and rattle a few cages.

I reckon it could go like the banking collapse yet ! I dont think they have the money to pay out when they should

lefthooker

My auld lad has a theory that he trots out every so often. He reckons "why would they want to get rid of all the cash when they can hold into it and make more interest."

whelan1

lefthooker wrote: »

My auld lad has a theory that he trots out every so often. He reckons "why would they want to get rid of all the cash when they can hold into it and make more interest."

they normally pay it out so we can pay our tax bills

moy83

whelan1 wrote: »

they normally pay it out so we can pay our tax bills

The joke might be on them , sure if you listen to most farmers they never make a penny . How could they be paying much tax :rolleyes:

whelan1

moy83 wrote: »

The joke might be on them , sure if you listen to most farmers they never make a penny . How could they be paying much tax :rolleyes:

makes you wonder doesnt it and then the fecking usc to top it off

moy83

whelan1 wrote: »

makes you wonder doesnt it and then the fecking usc to top it off

You shouldnt be complaining whelan , and the fine farm you have must be almost printing money for you at this stage :P
Would you be one of Irelands biggest female farmers ?

whelan1

moy83 wrote: »

You shouldnt be complaining whelan , and the fine farm you have must be almost printing money for you at this stage :P
Would you be one of Irelands biggest female farmers ?

me or the farm..... i am sure there are others with bigger farms than me

moy83

whelan1 wrote: »

me or the farm..... i am sure there are others with bigger farms than me

Of course it was the farm I was referring to !

NewBeefFarmer

Bump

blue5000

I think I did, but it's well gone now:(

Dampintheattic

Mine eventually landed last week. Hole in the account was so deep, thay had to use a parachute, to guide it gently to the bottom:o

whelan1

counting the days til second installment

dharn

Does anyone here know if a designated habitat under reps 3 can be changed back to grassland /permanent pasture
As reps 3 is long gone, I notice that 1 plot is referred to as former reps 3 habitat , can I change this , was talking to a girl in dept she didnt know but thought I could be done

Conmaicne Mara

dharn wrote: »

Does anyone here know if a designated habitat under reps 3 can be changed back to grassland /permanent pasture
As reps 3 is long gone, I notice that 1 plot is referred to as former reps 3 habitat , can I change this , was talking to a girl in dept she didnt know but thought I could be done

Can't see how they could hold you to it if they're not paying you for it TBH.

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

counting the days til second installment

Mines gone already, i hear accbank are closing wonder would they forget i owe them money. :-)

feartuath

No SPF yet I rang on Monday and was told there was a problem,asked did I sell entitlements , answer no. Rang again on Thursday and said it is clear for payment next week .there was no change on my application since last year when we removed a roadway and small holding pen .
I will just have to wait and see,payment came on 17th last year

whelan1

bump

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

bump

Fall out of bed???

lefthooker

whelan1 wrote: »

bump

Ah here now. You're hardly expecting civil serpants to work before during or after the long wknd:rolleyes:

whelan1

lefthooker wrote: »

Ah here now. You're hardly expecting civil serpants to work before during or after the long wknd:rolleyes:

Nope but some people mightnt have voted

NewBeefFarmer

I'm surprised with the size of the no pymt no contact, gees is that 20% of us yet to be paid ?

NewBeefFarmer

I'm surprised with the size of the no pymt no contact, gees is that 20% of us yet to be paid ?

lefthooker

With over 30% of all votes not getting paid I'm surprised there's not more noise from IFA and the other farm bodies

feartuath

Still waiting and I've got no letter or text from dept.

Dozer1

rang them for a 3rd time yesterday, told me again all is fine and I've been cleared for payment.....yet it hasn't arrived as I informed her again. oh well she said if you don have it by Friday then it'll be definitely in next week, so close to telling her how would she like if I held onto her flippin wages indefinitely...some joke,:mad:

handlemaster

I got a text off dept in Oct saying payment be through in next few days. nothing received . Anyone similar or know why this would happen

NewBeefFarmer

ahhh. . . almost a month after the first payments went out. . still nothing to this day 8th Nov

same for the 20% i assume

Dozer1

finally got paid on last Monday, like everyone else nearly all spent already

lefthooker

Over a month since the dept. were due to start making payments and I hope everyone has got their payment at this stage.

Did anyone get a letter from said dept. regards the hold up or over claim on a land parcel? I was told they were sending letters out to those affected when I rang inquiring about my payment but haven't received any correspondence yet.

ABlur

lefthooker wrote: »

Over a month since the dept. were due to start making payments and I hope everyone has got their payment at this stage.

Did anyone get a letter from said dept. regards the hold up or over claim on a land parcel? I was told they were sending letters out to those affected when I rang inquiring about my payment but haven't received any correspondence yet.

No payment or letter here yet, I ring them one a week for a chat and get a different story each time as to the cause of my non payment. I did manage to get through to someone who seemed to know what he was talking about this week so fingers crossed I may have my first instalment by the time everyone else is getting their second!!

lefthooker

That's an unacceptable position to still be in. And goes to show the disregard that some of the civil service in the dept. of Ag. have for the farming sector. If they got a hint that their pay was to be cut or delayed they'd have their beardy weirdy union rep calling for a strike

theaceofspies

lefthooker wrote: »

That's an unacceptable position to still be in. And goes to show the disregard that some of the civil service in the dept. of Ag. have for the farming sector. If they got a hint that their pay was to be cut or delayed they'd have their beardy weirdy union rep calling for a strike

Most of those union fellas have beards alright and pronounce workers as wuuurrrkkeeers.
I suppose there is a mentality that if you are sitting across the table from an alpha male that you will make concessions. It must be working for them. :D:D:D

lefthooker

If that's the case then I propose we get the Brax's to negotiate for us. You don't mess with Brax:pac:

Justjens

lefthooker wrote: »

Over a month since the dept. were due to start making payments and I hope everyone has got their payment at this stage.

Did anyone get a letter from said dept. regards the hold up or over claim on a land parcel? I was told they were sending letters out to those affected when I rang inquiring about my payment but haven't received any correspondence yet.

Still nothing at this stage, and no correspondence either.

My bank account has now been drained by The Revenue :eek:

Bodacious

lefthooker wrote: »

Over a month since the dept. were due to start making payments and I hope everyone has got their payment at this stage.

Did anyone get a letter from said dept. regards the hold up or over claim on a land parcel? I was told they were sending letters out to those affected when I rang inquiring about my payment but haven't received any correspondence yet.

I got my 50% without any deductions ... some of my neighbours got letters about overclaims etc .. I got nothing.. could I get one yet?

NewBeefFarmer

Nothing here. . . No post . . No call . . And gave up ringing. . .ill try again after x-mas, .

It puts me in such a bad mood just thinking about it. . . So i dont.

dharn

NewBeefFarmer wrote: »

Nothing here. . . No post . . No call . . And gave up ringing. . .ill try again after x-mas, .

It puts me in such a bad mood just thinking about it. . . So i dont.

Bloody annoying:mad:

theaceofspies

NewBeefFarmer wrote: »

Nothing here. . . No post . . No call . . And gave up ringing. . .ill try again after x-mas, .

It puts me in such a bad mood just thinking about it. . . So i dont.

They might be hoping you forget about it. I wouldn't accept that situation if I were you.

beef burger

nothing here yet either keep telling me its clear when i rang on 3 different occasions but still noten and as soon as its in it will be gone there will have to be changes made as you wouldnt need to be depending on the dept when your stuck me think.

lefthooker

Apologies for being vague:cool::cool::cool:
I have ascended to a position on a farming organisation within the county, nothing to get excited over. We had our AGM recently and "our president" was in attendance to deliver his address. I put it to him during questions from the floor that "our organisation" as well as the other farming organisations were remaining very quiet over the debacle leaving around 20000 farmers unpaid. That equated to 1 in 6 farmers not receiving payment nor any notification of a issue arising. (To date I'm still not aware of any correspondence from the Dept. to any individual affected.)

Anyway altho the attendance was small there was a handful of those in attendance without payment. "Our president" noted thepoint and said he'd investigate. I thought no more of it.

Two days later I was contacted by "our Handler" who had been in turn contacted by "our president", what they had discerned was the delay in processing was down to the dept. staff taking a months annual leave en masse during the summer. Stilldoesn't excuse them given they'd still have 4 months left to process applications from the deadline of submission to the first payment date. Which is still not acceptable since they are being paid handsomely to do a job.

Alas I honestly believed that some farming body would highlight this situation. Even the Beano seems to be avoiding raising the issue

6480

nothing here either no sfp, no area aid , owed for aeos for 2012 and 2013 ,

rancher

lefthooker wrote: »

Apologies for being vague:cool::cool::cool:
I have ascended to a position on a farming organisation within the county, nothing to get excited over. We had our AGM recently and "our president" was in attendance to deliver his address. I put it to him during questions from the floor that "our organisation" as well as the other farming organisations were remaining very quiet over the debacle leaving around 20000 farmers unpaid. That equated to 1 in 6 farmers not receiving payment nor any notification of a issue arising. (To date I'm still not aware of any correspondence from the Dept. to any individual affected.)

Anyway altho the attendance was small there was a handful of those in attendance without payment. "Our president" noted thepoint and said he'd investigate. I thought no more of it.

Two days later I was contacted by "our Handler" who had been in turn contacted by "our president", what they had discerned was the delay in processing was down to the dept. staff taking a months annual leave en masse during the summer. Stilldoesn't excuse them given they'd still have 4 months left to process applications from the deadline of submission to the first payment date. Which is still not acceptable since they are being paid handsomely to do a job.

Alas I honestly believed that some farming body would highlight this situation. Even the Beano seems to be avoiding raising the issue

The EU have discovered that 7% of irish farmers have major overclaims on their applications and 18% have minor overclaims. This has also happened in other countries and they have penalised all farmers but the irish dept are just penalising the offending farmers.......which is only right as 75% got it right, but its taking a bit of time.
As of last Thursday there's 116000 out of 123000 paid.
Don't know where you got your story

lefthooker

I'm taking figures that were published in the Farming Independent on 5th Nov. since they were relevant at the time. 103000 paid from 123000 applicants.

Re overclaims I had one myself but that was down to the dept. redigitising maps again. What gets me is that I always use the figures that the dept. supplies on their maps yet they go and change the figures nearly annually and tell me I made the mistake. Last year it was done in reverse, I got notification in June of a change due to redigitisation and had it rectified swiftly

rancher

lefthooker wrote: »

I'm taking figures that were published in the Farming Independent on 5th Nov. since they were relevant at the time. 103000 paid from 123000 applicants.

Re overclaims I had one myself but that was down to the dept. redigitising maps again. What gets me is that I always use the figures that the dept. supplies on their maps yet they go and change the figures nearly annually and tell me I made the mistake. Last year it was done in reverse, I got notification in June of a change due to redigitisation and had it rectified swiftly

Technology is improving all the time, They know now whether the land is grazed or if there's rock overground and what percentage, some farmers here will get a bill in the post instead of a cheque.
Eu have done this audit this time round, and they're insisting on penalties going back 5 years

Milton09

Exactly a month since a ground inspection and still not a hint of any payment.

Justjens

Been cleared for payment, although with another .9HA chipped off, a lot is due to their discrepancy with digitised maps from one year to the next. Luckily no penalty but have still challenged them on their figures, what are my chances?

If you are being held up due to satellite inspection ring the bas*ards in Kildare St. 01 6072000 or 01 6072026 and ask for [SNIP]

Keep at them until they are sick of listening to us.

Mod Note

I don't think it is fair to name individuals

6480

phase two is meant to be in bank account in the morning , i only got the first payment last week , and area based payment it was held up till now because prick of a landlord tried to back fire on a lease that runs for another 2 years in the end i got my way with him but the hassle he put me through

ABlur

I suppose its unlikely I'll get the second payment as I haven't got the first yet!